• Published 11th Feb 2024
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Why did you end? - Visharo



Sunny asks Twilight a question

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It was the one she needed

Two alicorns sat on a hill overlooking Maretime Bay. The Elder One was an ascended alicorn, chosen by Harmony and Princess Celestia all those moons ago. The Younger One was an...interesting case, it appeared she was chosen by Harmony yet her alicorn status has not been fully solidified. No matter. What mattered was that she had the potential to be more.

"Princess."

"Please, call me Twilight."

"Twilight. Why did you end?"

The Elder One giggled at that. What a silly question. "You're going to have to be more specific with that question."

The Younger One ducked her head in embarrassment. "I suppose, what I meant, was, why did your reign end? You had your friends, together you controlled the Elements of Harmony, even without them, you were the Princess of Equestria! You had entire armies that would do anything if you gave the order. Why and how did Opaline take control? Why did you let her?"

"That is a very good question, Sunny." She smiled down at her successor. "Perhaps it was time."

"Wha... That doesn't mean anything!"

The Elder One giggled again. "My apologies. How about this. Do you know why things end?"

"Because...I don't know." The Younger One admitted, somewhat ashamed.

"That's perfectly fine, my little pony. All things come to an end, we are taught this at a young age. If we weren't, it would be known later down in life. You could almost say it is inevitable that we would learn of the existence of the end."

"But that doesn't answer my question! Yes, things come to an end, but you barely ruled for 200 years, what happened?"

"Well, Opaline took over."

"Yes! I know that! It just seems...it just seems so...lame. You, the all powerful Princess of Friendship and Equestria, defeated by an Alicorn that we, sung into a tree. So, forgive me for not believing you." The Younger One looked a bit on the reddish side.

The Elder One waited patiently through this rant. "My dear Sunny, I could easily defeat her. I simply didn't."

"But...but why?"

"I shall answer the question I asked you earlier." She paused for dramatic effect, a certain unicorn would be proud. "All things come to an end because we decided to start it in the first place. All things come to an end because it allows a way for the new to take their place. All things come to an end because life goes on. I allowed for Opaline to take over, because I decided that that particular part of my journey was over. I spent 9 wonderful years with my best friends before I became the Princess of Equestria. I spent another 100 years serving Equestria to the best of my abilities. Those beginnings deserved endings, so I gave them one, allowing for a new beginning."

"But that new beginning was terrible! We lost our magic, we lost our Harmony, we lost our friends..." The Younger One sighed unhappily. "Things would've been better if you stayed and defeated Opaline."

A rob you of your beginning? Of the new cultures, ideas, and magicks? If I ruled for that much longer, many of the wonderful things about this new Equestria would not have existed. Granted, many of the wonders from my Equestria have disappeared, faded from view, but that's how it goes." The Elder One smiled as she reminisced. "There was this terrible flower, that if the spores touched skin, they would contract Swamp Fever. The results...were unpleasant, to say the least. But they no longer exist in this Equestria. Now you have a wonderful flower called the Lumi-bloom!"

"Yeah, I guess...but it's still unfair! Ponykind was split up for who knows how long! And all those other sentient species? The griffons, kirin, batponies? I can keep on listing if you want me to!"

"Oh, you don't have to do that. I am well aware of how many sentient creatures have disappeared. I knew them all, made peace and have formed friendships with all of them. You are talking to the Princess of Friendship afterall."

"That's what I mean! You knew so many, so many cultures and perspectives! All we've got are the Breezies and the Auroracorns."

"But look on the brightside! I only got to interact with the Breezies only a hooffull of times because of their peculiar habits. Now, you've got an entire society living within a tree! How is that not exciting!" The Elder One's face was alight with a rare glow. "And those Auroracorns? I wished I could have met them. Their brand of magic sounds so intriguing, and their horns are made out of some kind of crystallized ice? Never take your world for granted, Sunny. Sure, the past had all these amazing things, but look at all you've accomplished and how much you can still go for. The benefits of resetting is that the map has to be redrawn. I think that's worthy endeavour."

"Yeah...I guess you're right. But I'm still not convinced! From everything my dad and now you have told me about Old Equestria sounds amazing, so daring and fun! My Equestria seems so tame compared to that, like, all we do is just hangout and see what today's mishaps might bring us." The Younger One sighed forlornly. "I really wish we could rewind time."

"Oh, we can."

"We can!?"

"Well, I can."

"Oh...well, you can! Can you do it right now?"

"I could, but it wouldn't be right. Let the past be the past, it holds too much that if a pony were to mess around, it would all come crumbling down. Better to dream than a reality. But the present, that's the most important time of anypony's life. It is special because that's the time everypony who has free will is at. This is where your friends, friends you can hang around with, are at. If we changed all that, went back into the past to redo my supposed mistake, what would happen to your friends?"

"I...I don't know."

"Me neither. But I saw it happen once, more than once actually. A friend of mine decided that it was best to rewrite history. I never got to know my friends and we were both miserable for it. Sure, they had other friends, other purposes in life, but we were miserable. Me, for knowing what we had a lifetime ago. Them, for not knowing what could've happened. Time travel is to not be taken lightly, Sunny. I want you to remember."

"Okay...I'll remember."

"That's good."

The two alicorns looked away from each other and towards the now rising sun. It cast a beautiful glow, allowing the world to shape itself anew.

Comments ( 22 )

This is a very overt commentary on G4 vs G5.

Yes, all things end, but one end was disregarded for another.

Which ending is preferable depends on who you ask.

"But look on the brightside! I only got to interact with the Breezies only a hooffull of times because of their peculiar habits. Now, you've got an entire society living within a tree! How is that not exciting!" The Elder One's face was alight with a rare glow. "And those Auroracorns? I wished I could have met them. Their brand of magic sounds so intriguing, and their horns are made out of some kind of crystallized ice? Never take your world for granted, Sunny. Sure, the past had all these amazing things, but look at all you've accomplished and how much you can still go for. The benefits of resetting is that the map has to be redrawn. I think that's worthy endeavour."

Sunny doesn't strike me as the type who'd think that that would be worth having multiple sapient species go extinct, plus multiple generations of ponies living and dying under the delusion that the other tribes always were and always will be their enemies.

It sounds like an copout answer, but that notion comes from a mortal's point of view. But if you see it from the point of view of an immortal being? It kinda makes sense. If you saw the same thing over and over again, sooner or later you would wish for change; But when you are the thing that keeps the world stagnant, well, the only solution is to remove yourself from the equation, right? Mind you, I believe that Twilight came to this conclusion relatively very early, with only 200 years of reign.

And THIS is why i think g5 is good
Because g4 WAS coming to an end
Why make a sequel? Its time for a new generation to occur
Its Beautiful and its been here for 3 years and i enjoy it

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There is no doubt about that my friend, but it cannot be denied that it would be nice to see such endearing characters again, Spike's return showed us that and I personally hope for the return of the alicorns, they seemed like very wasted characters to me, especially Luna and Flurry Heart.

11821339
yeah, it was a bit short, but what can you do when the canon states it has been that long, not even I don't think!

11821412
Eyyy! Glad you enjoy G5! All that negativity felt a bit icky

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That's why fanfiction authors exist. To create dreams into reality without touching the actual reality. Every story is a 'what if...' scenario that we, as authors, mold match, destroy, or completely reshape the laws that have been put down.
It wouldn't be fair for many if the show kept on running, sure, the fans would be ecstatic, but what about the people behind the show? What would Lauren Faust say? The VA's? Generation 4 has been continuous for 11 years, maybe more, what with production and whatnot. That is a lengthy time for anybody.

This was the end we got, so we should treat the end of G4 with respect. Let the years fade away to distant and heartwarming memories.

I'm not trying to call you guys out or anything, I'm just stating my opinion on the matter.

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great animation

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You have a point

11821535
Indeed
This generation is about unity
Not hate

11821879
Indeed indeed!

11821339
Even there, Twilight seems like she should be perfectly capable of promoting progress without letting some supervillain go hog wild.

In pretty much every other work of fiction where someone is trying to let society collapse on blind faith that it'll come back better, it's portrayed as a seriously evil thing to do.



11821412

Why make a sequel? Its time for a new generation to occur

Indeed - you could scrub all references to G4 from what G5 content we have, and the effect on the plot would be minimal.

11822019

In pretty much every other work of fiction where someone is trying to let society collapse on blind faith that it'll come back better, it's portrayed as a seriously evil thing to do.

that is a very good point, I didn't think of that.

11822019
You know thats not what i meant buddy

11822019

For your first point, I'll just say that, if Twilight wanted to retire, the least she could do is leave a replacement in place, after all, Celestia did it.

To your second point, I think the narrative of a society depending on a single individual to remain stable has been explored more broadly than "if society collapses, it's that single individual's fault and he/she is evil for it."

For your third point, even if it is not directed at me, I am in the camp of those who believe that G5 should have been its own thing, completely separated from G4. A writer presented in his Fic the idea that G4 is just a cartoon show within G5, as a way to keep G4 present in spirit in G5, without limiting G5 with what is established in G4; and I think that would have been a pretty clever generational compromise.

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Aw, that's nice. Thank you!

I was about to say that Twilights is a monster who treats the world as some sort of playground or fictional story, but then Sunny reciprocated this by putting value in having fun, knowing cultures and going adventures. As if Twilight admitting that she's responsible for multiple genocides doesn't bother her.

This is fake. This is not ponies talking about the pony reality they live in. This is MLP fans discussing a fictional animated show.


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She struck me as this, though not to the extent Twilight shows here. In the movie it looked like she cares about the image of good old days that Argyle instilled in her, rather than the ponies' wellbeing. "Ponies are meant to be friends", as she said. She wants Equestria, she wants friends with cool magical powers and she's oblivious about racism even being a thing... well, rather selectivaly oblivious as the plot demands. In "Make Your Mark" she also talks about magic in terms of coolness rather than usefulness and ignores all the problems caused by the earth pony magic.

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As if Twilight admitting that she's responsible for multiple genocides doesn't bother her.

Where oh where does it state that she committed genocide, implied or otherwise?

This is fake. This is not ponies talking about the pony reality they live in. This is MLP fans discussing a fictional animated show.

Good person, of course this is fake. Doesn't make it any less real. I made this a reality. You don't have to state the obvious nor do you have to be so aggressive. If you weren't trying to do that intentionally, my apologies. It felt that way to me.
If you don't like the way it was written, maybe, perhaps, explain what made the story unenjoyable.
Thanks

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Her decision to not stop Opaline caused extinction of multiple sentient species. If she knew this was going to happen, it's genocide. If she didn't know, the point still stands. She is perfectly fine with all of this and gives wild justifications which imply that she doesn't treat others as actual sentient beings who deserve to live and live well.

The point of fiction is to create illusion of reality. At least if it isn't postmodernist, absurdist or some other fancy word, and your fic isn't. This means that I expect pony characters to treat the world of MLP as we treat our real world. But they don't. They discuss it as a piece of art where characters aren't real people and it is fine to let them suffer if it makes a good story.

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