Antiquarian sat at his dark oaken desk in the midst of his expansive study, quill scratching away as he tried not to fall asleep mid-sentence. A critic had once observed that the study and its owner suited each other well: a stuffy old room filled with dust, antiques, and archaic books, all battered and worn, and a dusty brown unicorn in faded tweed jacket, his disheveled brown mane and mustache turning to grey and his forest green aura and eyes darkening with bitterness. Antiquarian had not disputed the critic other than to note that he had plenty of modern books as well, and that his aura and eyes had always been dark.
His secretary, the ever-patient Miss Aura, bustled into the room, her pale coat and red-gold mane a bright mote of youth and energy in the archaic room. “You should really open the window and let some fresh air in, sir,” she chided him, setting a cup of coffee down on the desk. “It’s not healthy for you to brood.”
“I am not brooding, Miss Aura,” he grated, pulling out a hip flask and emptying half the contents into the coffee. “I am merely grimacing. Brooding is what I do when I contemplate the state of the modern education system. Grimacing is what I do when I’m being defeated by my own creation.”
“I stand corrected,” she said with a role of her eyes. “Can I take your grimacing to mean that you are facing a problem with your latest project?”
“You could say that,” he sighed, taking a sip from his enhanced coffee. “You see, it’s essential for my readers to understand Jacques’ psyche, but most people haven’t spent decades studying human history in general, much less specializing in Medieval Europe and Christianity. And why should they? It’s a hearty undertaking with few tangible rewards for most. The result, however, is that things that I take for granted as evident are obscure to most, and people are asking a lot of very important and insightful questions. The more studied ones are even bringing up some very valid points and references from the period. Which is wonderful!” he hastened to add before she could point out that he should be happy that readers were taking an interest in learning or else were already learned. “And I want to engage with all of them to clear up any confusion they have and elaborate on some of the facts that people have mentioned, but addressing them piecemeal isn’t working.” He took a longer drink. “Every time I answer one, another crops up. And, because not everyone has the time to read through all the comments, not that I’m suggesting they should, I sometimes see more or less the same question multiple times.” He ran a hoof through his hair and leaned back in his chair. “I don’t want to let any of them down, but I’m afraid that, despite my best efforts, plenty of readers are still confused through no fault of their own.”
“Mm,” she nodded absently as she vainly attempted to make headway against the dust. “Well, that is quite the conundrum. Jacques is very much a man out of time, and if you insist on being as true to that as possible, there will always be things that he takes for granted that seem odd to the readers without context. But, if you think about it, there’s a certain inevitability to it. After all,” she added with a smirk, “you’re too stubborn to break the rules of your own system.”
Antiquarian frowned and prepared to shoot back a retort about his stubbornness, but before he could his eyes widened and he beamed. “Break the rules! Break the rules! Aura, you’re a genius!”
Aura looked up, startled. “I… am?”
“Yes, yes of course,” he cackled. “It’s so obvious now! I’ll just have to break the rules.”
Aura blinked. “Sir, you’re scaring me.”
Antiquarian pulled his typewriter out and plopped it on the desk, typing away in a maddened frenzy. “Prepare two chapter slots, Aura! When the next one goes out, it’ll have a little non-canon companion volume to go with it!”
“I’m… not sure I follow.”
“Aura,” he said with a mad grin, “I’m going to address the audience… directly!”
My Dear Readers,
In case that introduction didn’t make it clear, this chapter is to be considered non-canon. It is intended to give you all a rough overview of the common medieval view on certain spiritual matters, specifically with regards to supernatural powers. There are three things that I want to make abundantly clear.
Firstly, this is by no means a fully inclusive look at medieval spirituality. That would literally take hundreds of books to fully explain. This is, at most, a very watered-down summary of certain key elements that directly pertain to the story.
Secondly, for the sake of convenience I will not be saying “The Catholic Church believes X” at each point; I will just be saying “This is X” most of the time. This is not intended hammer you over the head with theology; it is shorthand to make it easier and shorter for me to write, because putting qualifiers throughout is a pain. I am presenting to you the view that Jacques would have had at his point in history on supernatural matters in the context of broader Catholic theology so that you may better understand his concerns and motivations. No more, and no less. My hope to help you understand why Jacques is coming to the conclusions that he is along this journey. Thus, I invite you to an impromptu learning experience.
Thirdly, this chapter is not to discourage you from asking more questions in the future. As I said, this list is not an exhaustive look at the whole picture; it’s a snapshot that serves as my attempt to clarify some of the more commonly asked questions.
With Respect,
Antiquarian
Origins
These principles of God, spirits, and spiritual matters actually predate Christianity in their origins, as we see them from Genesis on. Thus, in answer to multiple readers’ questions of where Christian notions of miracles vs. magic (and related topics) came from, the answer is that they’ve always been around; they’ve simply become more nuanced over the centuries as teachings have been clarified.
God
To give a proper grounding for understanding the medieval take on God would require volumes. Since we don’t have that, I’ll hit a couple key points. One of the most important concepts is that God doesn’t need us. We add nothing to God by existing or worshipping God. What this means practically is that the universe has been loved into being by a God that created everything to share love rather than to benefit from it in any way. That which God does for us and instructs us to do is done so as to bring us into a fuller state of harmony with God and the rest of creation. Properly ordered, all aspects of creation, from the greatest to the smallest, ultimately wind their way back to this Grand Design of harmony and goodness.
Or, if that was a little heavy-handed and philosophical, just listen to “Through Heaven’s Eyes” from Prince of Egypt. I’m serious. It’s actually a very good illustration of the concept of Providence and the ultimate harmonic designs of God.
Angels and Demons
These beings of spirit were created with power and authority over creation that we would consider supernatural, but which are in fact simply a natural part of the Angels’ stewardship (more on stewardship later). There are nine choirs of angels: Seraphim, Cherubim, Thrones, Dominions, Virtues, Powers, Principalities, Archangels, and Angels. While I could get into what they are each responsible for, suffice it to say they have power and authority over specific things. Now, when a number of angels rebelled in pride, they separated themselves from the Grand Design because they separated themselves from God and, by extension, the Divine Life. They retain their power, because for the moment their power and authority is tied to the world. However, when the world ends, they are, to use common parlance, screwed.
A Note on Hell
Hell is most properly understood as an eternal state of being. With God is all of life, creation, harmony, and existence. Thus, if one is separated from God, the only remaining option is the hell; the absence of Life. Or, to put it more bluntly, eternal Death. When life and death are talked about theologically, it is thus vital to discern whether it is physical or spiritual life and death which are being discussed. It is further important to note that God did not make hell. Rather, hell is a state of void made by the very people who imprison themselves there by cutting themselves off from the Source of Life. To be clear, when I say ‘void,’ I do not mean that the place does not exist. Hell is very real and hell is a place of eternal punishment and damnation. When I say ‘void,’ I mean that it is an eternity of not-God/not-Life/not-Happiness, an unending absence of anything good. Hell is the result of a free choice to decide on ‘not-God,’ and thus be in a state/place of eternal separation and misery.
Human Stewardship
I briefly mentioned stewardship earlier; in essence, what stewardship refers to is the power, authority, and responsibility that a being is granted over a specific thing(s). Humans, in Genesis, were granted stewardship over the world, with both the right to be its stewards and responsibility to be good stewards. Stewardship is a recurring theme in the Bible. Many tales speak of honorable stewards who seek prosperity for all peoples and the respectful care for their land; these stewards are greatly rewarded. Bad stewards who make life miserable for others and abuse their land come to a bad end for their actions.
Stewardship is tied to gifts, faculties, and powers that an individual or collective is meant to have. For humans, this includes math, science, logic, philosophy, governance, art, creativity, etc. Humans are supposed to seek to use these faculties to the best of their abilities to better love, understand, and care for creation (Knowledge and Understanding are both considered Gifts of the Holy Spirit). This is why, despite hiccups like Galileo, the Catholic Church has a long history of advocating the sciences, from Copernicus (a doctor of canon law and the father of heliocentrism) to Mendel (a friar and the father of genetics) to George Lemaître (a priest and the formulator of the Big Bang Theory). The modern university system was begun by the medieval church. Monks preserved the works of Aristotle and Plato, the legends of Beowulf and the Norse, and pretty much any ancient texts they could get their hands on. Philosophers like Augustine and Aquinas would expound on what the Greeks and Romans had once discussed. I could go on, but this is sufficient for a brief overview.
Since another reader brought it up, I’ll also touch briefly on the medieval customs regarding medicine, because it’s actually a fairly good representation of the principle of human gifts and faculties with regards to stewardship. The practice of herbalists and apothecaries acting as healers was commonplace in medieval Europe and, while some parts of early medicine was laughably wrong (much medical knowledge had been lost with Rome, and some of what had been preserved was wrong anyway), the underlying principle gives good insight into their mindset: God created an intelligible world, and within it there are many things which can help us care for each other and creation; by better understanding them through science and reason, we can better live in harmony. Practicing medicine was simply an exercise in practicing the gifts we were born into as humans. Thus, mixing up a natural brew to cure an ailment would simply be an extension of one’s inherent, innate faculties.
Supernatural
Now that the groundwork has been laid, let’s talk about supernatural powers. It has always been the case that humans have wielded supernatural power within the Judeo-Christian tradition. A quick perusal of the Bible will reveal such stories as Samson’s superstrength and Elijah calling down fire from heaven in the Old Testament, and numerous healings and exorcisms in the New Testament. Beyond the Bible, we see accounts of saints working miracles (ranging from healing and bilocation to calling down lightning) well into the modern era. By the same token, we hear about demon possessions, practice of the dark arts, and fire summoned through magic. So the question is, what’s the distinction?
Well, for starters, I’m going to point out that terminology can actually be one of the most confusing parts of this. ‘Thaumaturgy,’ for instance, has been used historically to refer to miracles worked by saints and to magic performed by witches. And that’s just in the Christian context. In the end, terminology can be deceptive and meanings can change, so I’m going to talk about the underlying principles rather than the words.
Firstly, let’s talk about Good supernatural power. God can grant humans to work supernatural works (commonly called ‘miracles’) ranging from superhuman feats of strength and precision to reading the hearts of others to healing to calling down fire. Sometimes it’s an isolated event; sometimes the person is regularly a miracle-worker/wonder-worker/thaumaturge. St. Gregory of Neocaesarea, for instance, was called ‘the Thaumaturgist.’ Wielding this power is totally acceptable, because its source is in Life and it is in line with harmony and the Grand Design.
Then there’s Evil supernatural power. If a person ever tries to wield a power that they don’t actually have granted to them, it’s bad news. This is because, if God hasn’t granted the power, there’s really only one other place to get it: hell. Or, to put it another way, Death. Whether a person goes out explicitly seeking to make a bargain with a devil or is simply trying to bring it about by their own power or even if another person invokes the power upon them doesn’t matter. If it isn’t supposed to be there, then it comes about from an unnatural and ultimately evil source. Good intentions don’t really matter, because the evil seed ultimately corrupts. For reference, consider Gandalf and the reason he gives Frodo as to why he can’t use the One Ring: it would corrupt him; he would want to use it for good, but through him it would work evil. This power which comes from Death has been called many things over the years, but in the Judeo-Christian context is most commonly (though not always) called simply ‘magic.’
Thus, powers that humans wield fall broadly into three categories: that which is natural for us (stewardship), that which is made natural for us and has its origins in Life (Good Supernatural/Miracles), and that which is taken unnaturally and is, by extension, separated from the Divine Life (Evil Supernatural/Magic). Thus, magic is not evil because it’s a supernatural power called ‘magic,’ it’s evil because it has an unnatural origin, which by extension means that it’s separated from God and the Divine Life, and thus comes from Death. If ‘magic’ were a term used to refer to miracles or to an innate power that a being was truly created with, then ‘magic’ would be good in that context.
Legends
Okay, so that was a lot to throw at you. But wait! It gets even more complicated!
You see, as I mentioned before, terminology changes all the time. With the various pagan tribes of Europe gradually converting to Christianity in Late Antiquity and the Early Middle Ages, we see a lot of terms for supernatural being used for both miracles and magic and the workers of both (remember thaumaturge?)
It gets even more confusing when you consider mythical beasts. Many were considered automatically evil because they had been brought about through magic (or were just straight-up demons). On the other hand, many mythical beasts were traditionally considered holy, even heaven-sent. In the catacombs of Rome, I frequently saw phoenix drawn on the walls because the phoenix was a symbol for the Resurrection. Unicorns, as I hinted at with one of Jacques’ internal monologues, were often thought of as being holy, specifically as a symbol of Jesus’ glory. Saint Basil makes this connection in his writings on Psalm 92:10:
“On the whole, since it is possible to find the word ‘horn’ used by Scripture in many places instead of ‘glory’, as the saying ‘He will exalt the horn of his people’ (Ps 148:14) and ‘His horn shall be exalted in glory’ (Ps 112:9), or also, since the ‘horn’ is frequently used instead of ‘power’, as the saying ‘My protector and the horn of my salvation’, Christ is the power of God; therefore, he is called the Unicorn on the ground that he has one horn, that is, one common power with the Father.” – Homilies on the Psalms 13.5
Medieval minds had many conflicting views on which mythical monsters fell into which camp, or if they fell into a camp at all rather than being regular animals.
Then we get into legends regarding humans. Let’s take a look at Arthurian Legends. In some tales, Merlin, the ally of Arthur, is half-demon! Seems odd, right? Well, not when you consider the context. One thing that must be remembered about Arthur is that there are as many different narratives as there are writers, and the tales reflect the concerns of the time. Le Morte de’Arthur was patterned on existing Arthurian legends in which Arthur and his knights were not exactly heroic figures. Legendary, yes, but seldom heroic, and what heroes there were often died tragically. This is because these Arthurian tales were written as criticisms of the emerging corruption and lecherous behavior amongst period nobles. The half-demon Merlin is a semi-recurring character in these tales, and one of his most prominent acts is to help Uther (Arthur’s father) to essentially rape Arthur’s mother by using his magic to make Uther look like her husband. Which is just all kinds of awful.
On the other end of the supernatural spectrum in Arthurian storytelling, we look to some of the earliest legends. In a good number of these, Arthur was a great warrior king who bore a shield painted with the Madonna and Child and a holy sword called Caliburn. With heaven-blest strength and these holy weapons he is said to have been able to kill men with a single blow and once slew 900 single-handedly in a battle.
Note that supernatural events occur in both sorts of tales, but that the origin of such power makes the difference between good/evil. Again, this general principle is a better guide than terminology alone.
History
I could get into a very, very lengthy list of noted Jewish and Christian miracle-workers, but I think a better use of our time would just be to simply give an example of how supernatural events have been differentiated one from the other by the Church in history.
Joan of Arc was a peasant girl from an insignificant village in France during the Hundred Years War. France was on the brink of losing after about 90 years of steady decline, and they needed a miracle. That miracle came in the form of Joan having visions from various angels and saints telling her that God had charged her with saving France. Naturally, people were suspicious that she was receiving visions from the devil or (more likely) was simply sick in the head. She appeared before a Church court and, after investigation, the clergy became convinced that her visions were genuine. She was given their blessing to go forth and do the work to which she’d been assigned.
Now, I’d love to go on about Joan of Arc, as she’s one of the most remarkable historical figures in history. As the only person (male or female) to ever be granted supreme command of the military forces of a country at seventeen in all of history (not counting monarchs and the like), her career was short but stunningly successful. She was so impressive as a figure of courage, integrity, and piety that Mark Twain (who infamously disliked both the French and Catholicism) wrote a novel about her that took twelve years of labor and which he considered to be his best and most important work. However, for the sake of brevity, I’ll move into the rest of why she’s significant to this conversation.
After a long string of victories that were called miraculous, Joan made a lot of enemies in the French court (and the English were none too happy with her either). She was betrayed into English hands, tried by a sham court of power-hungry French clergymen who’d been bought for the purpose, and burned at the stake under false pretext of unrepentant witchcraft.
There are unsettling parallels to what happened to the Templars, but I digress.
Joan’s name was ultimately cleared in a later investigation by a Church court which exposed the lies of the false trial, brought up as evidence her first trial (which had been deliberately omitted in the second trial), and affirmed the original decision that her visions were Divine in origin.
I bring this story up to further illustrate the point that what power a person has doesn’t really matter in itself; only where they got it from and by what authority they wield it.
Friendship is Magic
So… what does this all mean in the context of MLP? Well, quite simply, it means that there’s no reason that Jacques can’t fit in. Jacques is a trained exorcist. His job is to determine the origin of supernatural powers, much like the original court that tried Joan. As far as he is concerned, what the ponies call ‘common magic’ is simply a term for a natural power that is granted them as a part of their stewardship; it’s akin to what he would call science, natural faculties, or knowledge in the human world rather than the human definition of magic. He would likely be able to compare it to the human capacity for making medicine as an extension of their God-given faculties and powers. He might not like the fact that the term ‘magic’ is used, but he understands that the definition in each world is fundamentally different. Once he’s able to make that distinction, there’s nothing to stop him from acclimating.
Conclusion
If you take nothing else from this, here is the principle that I want to leave you with: shorthand terminology, like ‘miracle’ or ‘magic,’ can be useful for getting a general idea of whether something would be considered good or evil, since many terms are consistent over long periods of time. However, to truly drill down to what it would be considered in actuality, it is necessary to consider it in the context of where the power originated, what its purpose is, how and why it was obtained/given, etc. Terms can lie, so the underlying premise must be examined. Also, the Catholic Church has professionals explicitly created for this purpose. If you want to know if there’s been an official statement on a specific thing, just putter around the Vatican website or check out the works of the late Fr. Gabriele Amorth (the Vatican’s chief exorcist before his death). If it’s been officially examined, there’s almost certainly an official document you can find (though, depending on what country it was examined in, it might not be in English; I had to find audio versions of Amorth’s work that were dubbed when doing my research).
One of the best allegories for it is to just read Tolkien, quite honestly. The distinctions that he makes as to where power and authority come from and who has the right to wield them explores the principles that would be common to Catholicism, but through the lens of a unique world with multiple races and frequent supernatural events in play; ‘magic’ in that world resembles to MLP’s definition, making it a good point of comparison.
Hope that answers a few questions. Now, back to your regularly scheduled programming. Happy reading!
Pinkie, Discord, and Deadpool were all playing strip poker, when suddenly a shudder ran through all of them and Pinkie performed a double backflip followed by a quadruple axle headspin.
"Whoah... chaos I want nothing to do with! Now I've seen everything!" Discord coughed.
"What a Doozie of a Doozie of a Doozie!" shivered Pinkie.
"That's a Doozie CUBED!" exclaimed Deadpool. "I'd take a peek, but I have a sequel coming out soon. Pretty busy."
"And yet you have time to play cards in the hopes of seeing a pony and a weird animal amalgamation nude, despite us being nude all the time regardless," quipped Discord.
"I can have my kinks if I want!" pouted Deadpool.
The last group tend to look like weird monster things and like to attack this one particular part of Japan a lot.
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Welp. I can never unsee that.
*standing ovation* MAN this was worth the read! I LOVE when someone intelligently sums up important points like this, being concise is an area I struggle in. XD; Really love this, I hope it helps your readers!
Also sorry for taking so long to reply back to you. I got a puppy last week, so between that and work Im sure you can imagine how Ive been rather preoccupied. ^^; Will hopefully get to it soon!
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Glad you liked it, and no worries on the delay. One thing I certainly never have enough of is time, so I can hardly begrudge the business of others.
I read a lot of fantasy of the kind with elves and dwarves and stuff, so I more or less knew what you were going on about.
Thank you for this, it helps a lot.
Not being a historian means that I often get confused by who said what, when, and in relation to what else and to whom. Even more so if you consider the tumultuous mix of theology, politics (*cough* Western Schism *cough*), power plays, and sometimes creative interpretations of the scriptures which all happened around that period.
So my questions...
Is it possible to misuse miracles, in this medieval framework? Like "Bob's really strong, we've decided it's not demons, but he's really being a dick about it."
Separately, first chapter notes this is post-sombra. Assuming that went as canon, both Celestia and Twilight know and can use dark magic. I anticipate some interesting discussions* when that comes to light.
* A Shitstorm.
A very worthwhile read. Though for the sake of maintaining a consistent flow (and for readers who won't find/start reading until much later), I might suggest sliding this chapter up to before the story starts. As an optional preface, perhaps.
Well it's that time of week to go to a fanfiction site about cartoon ponies and read substantial historical analyses of the theological nature of magic and the supernatural in medieval Europe. It's that or birb videos. OvO
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From what few descriptions we get of angels in holy books, there might be a reason they usually lead off by saying "do not be afraid." It's not necessarily a polite formality.
Nice read. Most I knew, but I specialize in renaissance and industrial history so there were some useful stories there.
I do have to correct you, though. The legendary Charles XII became king of Sweden at 15, and therefore supreme commander of its forces. He later fought against Poland, Denmark and Russia in the Great Northern War :)
Great read. I had been wondering about the differences between what constitutes "magic" (as in, "good") and "witchcraft" (as in, "evil") according to the Catholic Church for a while there (even before coming across this fanfic). I understand this is merely a quick, "watered-down" explanation, but it is quite helpful nonetheless. Thank you!
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To be fair, the Great Northern War started when Charles was 18. Sure, as King of Sweden he did wield supreme military command of all of Sweden's forces since he was crowned, but, if I remember correctly, he did not exercise it properly until pretty much all of Sweden's neighbors decided that mass-declaring war on Sweden would be like having a picnic.
Still a bloody badass tho, that guy.
Quite informative I must say I might have to just bookmark this specific chapter for future reference.
I love it when people talk smart to me in a way I can understand, and with sources to boot!
This was supremely neat! Insightful, too!
It was really interesting seeing some obscure similarities between my religion's doctrine and that of medieval Catholicism, particularly on the nature of Hell as a sort of void where people separate themselves from God, and some of the stuff on stewardship.
It was also really interesting for getting a clear idea on what separated magic from miracles for them. It makes sense that Middle Earth followed similar rules...
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They can use dark magic, yes, but I nonetheless feel that context will still matter. Celestia (and Luna) appear to be closer to divinity than most ponies, so it’s kind of hard to say there, but if you look at Twilight, it’s very obvious that using dark magic did not come naturally to her, and even seemed physically painful for her to use.
More importantly, though, given that she was there on a mission to stop Sombra and save the Crystal Empire from his Evil, it could be argued very easily that at the time, she had been granted the authority to use dark magic within the context of completing her mission. We have not seen her use it since, so this argument so far stands intact.
Given Tolkien's catholicism, that does make sense. It even gives a view of the confusion over defining magic, too. If I recall correctly, the hobbits and humans in the setting tend to define magic more or less like we do, using it to label seemingly miraculous things that they don't understand and thus applying it to both the arts of the elves (and to a lesser degree the dwarves) and the dark powers of the Enemy. The elves on their part find this rather confusing, since they don't perceive the two things as anything alike -- more than anything, I think they view their own arts as what you label stewardship, in that to them it's simply an application of their understanding of the laws and materials of the physical world. The things Morgoth, Sauron and their forces do is more in line with demonic powers or dark magic, being that they are literally fallen angels.
I think Saruman provides a good example of transition from holy to unholy power. He and the other wizards start out as maia, angels, who took corporeal form. Their power, although limited by their incarnation, thus flows directly from God. In his fall and turning to evil, Saruman cuts himself off from the source of Life and his powers thus become the corrupt powers of eternal Death.
By contrast, Gandalf going from being Gandalf the Grey to Gandalf the White would be a fairly direct example of holy powers given through divine permission, as Gandalf was explicitly given authority to use a greater amount of his original angelic nature, of the original power stemming from Eru Ilúvatar, in the course of his mission to safeguard the people of the world.
A very good explication of a worldview most today know nothing of, except that it was "backward," "oppressive," and "superstitious" (labels never given to the spiritual traditions of "indigenous peoples," I notice)--though I disagree vehemently about Galileo being a good guy.
I'll venture that most people are unaware of an animal in the Hebrew Bible called the tachash, a one-horned (and, I believe by one account, purple) creature whose hide was used for the Mishkan (the Tabernacle in the Wilderness). Supposedly it was created for just this one purpose, and after the Mishkan was superseded by the Temple, it became extinct. Tachash is actually sometimes translated as "unicorn!"
This was great, but you could have simply made a blog post and a link to it in your author's notes.
Wow! Antiquarian got so excited there he mispronounced his assistant's name.
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Look, when your primary method of dealing with the work day is Irish coffee, slurred speech patterns will develop.
I've got a question regarding the part about betrayal of Joan of Arc, the earlier part about demons and the origins of their power, and specifically the line, "I bring this story up to further illustrate the point that what power a person has doesn’t really matter in itself; only where they got it from and by what authority they wield it."
Should I take this to mean that all power from evil/death/void is evil regardless of what you do with it, but power from good/life/God can be used/corrupted for evil purposes? And why would that be the case?
Or that power from evil will always create evil, and power from good will always create good in the end regardless of what you do with it? Does that mean demons, who ultimately got their power from God, will inevitably see good/life spring from their evil works?
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FYI, I had to go back and fix the section on Hell (which I'll mention in the next author's notes). Looking back at it after I'd published it, I realized that the way I phrased things could be misread pretty easily. While it technically wasn't wrong, it wasn't worded as clearly as it should have been. I don't know if the new wording changes anything for you, but in case it did I wanted to let you know.
This was very informative for me, who would ever think to find something like this in a pony fanfic Also, I haven't read the Bible all the way through, what are some examples of Stewardship stories?
Or to accept...
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I think that it is just stolen power. Using what was not meant to wield (or not ready) would be corrupting. Evil is not source of power it source of corruption and loss of restraint in this case. Think of Alicorn Amulet or Mydas Book (one used by Rarity).
Swipe is especially bad today.. it wrote vorrupting instead of corrupting 5 times in row,lol. Provided that I see that I touch C and V button blinks instead.
Alright. I am not Christian, nor have I read the Bible. As such, most of tbe incredibly limited knowledge I have on Christian theology is probably only half-right or outright wrong.
Still, I was always under the impression that humanity obtained knowledge and understanding because Adam and Eve ate of the forbidden fruit from the Tree of Knowledge. It was also my understanding that this was very, very bad.
That seems to contradict the statement above. What am I missing?
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What Adam and Eve got by eating the apple was the knowledge of good and evil specifically. This, in practical terms, refers to the knowledge that it was possible to choose the option 'not-God.' By contrast, the gifts of Knowledge and Understanding are two of the seven gifts of the Holy Spirit (the others being Piety, Fortitude, Counsel, Wisdom, and Awe of the Lord). Knowledge in this latter case refers to the capacity of humans to think about and explore God's revelation and the intelligible world, and Understanding refers to the ability to comprehend the meaning and relevance behind it. These latter gifts, incidentally, are considered by theologians to have belonged to humanity before the knowledge of good and evil because the full breadth of all that makes life good (love, compassion, art, literature, creativity, wisdom, knowledge, sexuality, athleticism, wisdom, etc.) were all given to humanity from the beginning and are represented by all the other trees in the Garden of Eden.
To put it another way, Knowledge/Understanding as gifts of the Holy Spirit would refer to the capacity of humans to discover that fire is the result of a predictable chemical reaction that has its place within the framework of the natural order of the world. Knowledge of good and evil is the realization that you could use this fire either to warm your house during the winter or to burn down your neighbor's shed because his dog barks too loud .
Does that answer your question?
To meet a fellow Catholic on this site was something I had always hoped for.
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A pleasure. Though from the profile picture I would have assumed you were a Jedi
Fantastic exposition and explanation
As meaningless as it will be coming from me, I’m VERY impressed with you and your knowledge. Oh, how I wish that I knew what you do about what you do. It’s through no fault but my own that I’m lacking, but I digress. I think you’re very good at what you do, in both your knowledge and writing skills. Your characters feel natural in that they behave as they should but aren’t confined to the cookie cutter shape that is easy to adhere to. I’m very glad I’ve finally begun to read this and I regret putting it off for so long.
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Most kind of you. Thank you. And, if you want to learn a little of what I learned, I have suggested reading I could provide upon request for some topics.
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Other members of God's go to guys: We still love you, we just think you're retarded
And I thought you christians were supossed to be backwards and ignorant. What manner of sorcery is this, how dare you not capitulate to other preconcieved notions from cartoon old farts who turn themselves into produce
IT'S SO MEANINGFUL! THERE'S SUCH IMPLICIT MEANING IN LIFE HAVING NO MEANING
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Yeah, most Christians, like myself, actually aren't jerks or hypocrites or something. But, the only Christians you only ever really hear about are the one that are, so that might be why we have such a bad rap.
Dang it. I'm starting to become obsessed with the Middle Ages. It started out so innocently, I was just playing new game called Kingdom Come: Deliverance. Then I was watching shadiversity religiously. Now I'm reading 14th century MLP crossovers...
Is there any going back from me now? Or am I doomed to one day show up in fully authentic regalia at Medieval Times, asking where the Mead is?!
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The day you know you've lost it is when you start reading Régine Pernoud and Jonathan Riley-Smith as light reading. And by 'lost it,' I of course mean 'risen to a higher level of intellectualism.'
If you want some medieval novels, though, check out Allen French's The Red Keep (Burgundian late 12th century) or The Story of Rolf and the Viking Bow (Scandinavian early medieval). These books heavily inform my approach to A 14th Century Friar.
As a Protestant I'm naturally going to disagree with some of the theological points you brought up but as a history major, I have to applaud your knowledge of medieval Catholicism which is quite different from modern Catholicism.
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Thank you. I am glad that you enjoy it in spite of theological disagreements. As to the theology Friar Jacques expresses throughout, I would clarify that Catholicism is Catholicism. The practice of modern Catholicism sometimes diverges from previous eras in terms of aesthetic and optional/changeable traditions, but the core principles remain historically consistent. Now, how often and to what degree they are followed is another matter...
Didn’t they modify Beowulf to be like, 2.0% more Christian?
Also while I’m not so sure that the popes and high leaders were very good(hiring prostitutes, caring about wealth and politics more than God) many monks friars and such, who had nothing and often therefore less likely to be corrupted and more pure, definitely make a good mark on Christianity.
By the way Joan of arc is my fav. Her devotion, faith, and purity is a great example and model, not just of what Christianity should be, but what people who listen and obey God, whatever name or command you feel he tells you that you know is of good and not of evil
The only parts that I was about unfamiliar but figure out last chapter were the stewardship and magic or our Arthur part. I knew about the major difference in preception on beast and such which makes sense cause limited travel means small areas all evolve every differently cultural and interpret things very differently. Honestly this didn’t tell me much more than you already said in the other chapters or that I didn’t even already know. Expect in a less obscure way, which I guess helps some but I’m pretty good at obscure and honestly I feel like it isn’t obscure, and it how books are meant. So either I am the history guy I tell myself I am, I’m just smart, or it wasn’t very difficult to get in the frist place. Your pick
Also forgive spelling. It’s 2:20 am I’m just trying to get basic readability and nothing more, hoping errors aren’t to big to prevent you getting what I’m saying. I don’t even know how my brain is still functioning. Probably whatever mental thing I have that makes me hyper focus cause all rights I should be passed out now. Certainly feel the mind falling apart tiredness. Yet I can’t seem to stop
Anyway as much as I love your realistic culture blend of characters, the philosophy, theology, and history(all my fav subjects followed by sci fi and fantasy, weird combo I know but equal love and devor of all pertaining to them) I NEED to stop and sleep NOW
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You make me feel like such an enabler!
Good job. I have now saved this to my folder about the nature of god.
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I am gratified to hear it!
I quite like the usage of stewardship to explain away the supernatural elements of MLP, because as you say, they are inherent. Trixie is a brilliant example. Her natural magical skills and sleight of hand ? Perfect legit, she wa born to them. The power boost she gained from the Alicorn Amulet? Yeah that's "Magic" of the Medieval Evil variety.
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I'm gratified to hear that. Sorting all this out metaphysically was a labor-intensive operation and easily the thing that I could least afford to go wrong. Positive feedback is always welcome, but especially in this regard.
This is the first time that a non-canon/story focused chapter has got me this hooked and interested. I’m just awe and shocked!
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Glad to hear it!