I am voting for Donald Trump. · 4:30pm Oct 23rd, 2020
I think that was obvious from my Conservative viewpoint. (I conserve water by peeing in the shower.) But there are several reasons why I would do so regardless of my affiliation.
First, Trump has handled the outbreak pretty well. Biden lies when he says Trump did nothing to stop it; he labeled the virus a health crisis as early as January and initiated the lockdown when the first few infected people appeared in the U.S. Meanwhile, Kamala Harris was urging people to go to Chinatown and theaters as late as March. I disagree with some Conservatives having masks as a political statement; regardless of affiliation, we should wear masks. But I do think that Trump hasn't mishandled the situation, especially when it comes to the media that was telling people it was okay to go outside to protest violently.
That beings me to the second point. There were wrongs committed on both the police and rioters' parts. And there have been racist acts. But the notion that racism is institutionalized is far from the truth. I get that maybe one out of ten thousand people are still overtly racist, but so what? It'll die out anyway if we stop making such a big deal about race. Don't look at black people as black people, and don't look at white people as white people. They're all just people, and emphasizing the fact that this person is a *black* person won't do you any good.
Third, most of Trump's policies are just fine.
-Healthcare isn't an innate right that people have. It's a policy, and policies are subject to change while rights are not.
-Speaking of rights, gun control will do basically nothing. Banning assault rifles to get rid of shootings because of their cosmetics is an astoundedly stupid idea. Besides, the vast majority of gun violence is with handguns in the inner cities, and a big portion of that is for suicide!
-Immigration has to be enforced correctly because there are plenty of people who take advantage of our very liberal current policy. Children separated from their parents because their parents were illegal? Well, do you want the kid in jail with you, or what? (I'll go into better detail about immigration in a later post)
-The America First policy is absolutely essential. If we aren't strong enough to support ourselves, we certainly can't help the rest of the world. Remember the mote and beam analogy in the scriptures?
-There are two genders. And you can't change them based on a whim. It's biologically impossible unless you perform some terrible surgery to morph your body into some kind of in-between. I get that there's gender dysphoria, which is a genuine disability, but the fact remains that it's an anomaly, it isn't natural.
-Liberalism is an inherently selfish policy, saying that to be free, I must disconnect from every expectation set upon me. Disconnect from society, from tradition, from expectations, from religion, from my gender and my role in it. They think there should be no objective truth except for the truth that you decide personally. But at the same time, if your truth is different from their truth, you're a bigoted racist homophobe who needs to get educated. (Never mind the fact that being educated in college is mostly a scam anyway; you go in, learn Leftist talking points, go out with less than you came in with, and you're tens of thousands of dollars in debt. College is great if you gain something out of it, and if every college was as such, it'd be great.)
Liberals hate America. They hate its history, its ideals, and its founders. They demonize Christopher Columbus, George Washington, and Thomas Jefferson. They demand us to feel guilty for conquering land (even though every country in history has done so) and building up the current nation. I'm not going to feel sorry for living in the greatest country in the world.
Finally, if being a Trump supporter is enough to get big-name figures ostracized and demonized in media, and for people to attack you openly, you'll just reinforce their ideals instead of changing them. I want America to retain its position as the greatest country on earth, which is why I am voting for Trump and not Biden. Sure, Trump is questionable for some things he's said or done, but so is Biden, and Biden is just another politician lying through his teeth and tempting flies with honey.
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Brady, you’ve struck a home run. You’re absolutely on point here, and everything you’ve commented on is exactly why I’m voting for Trump too.
America is the home I’ve loved and cherished ever since I was born, and I believe Trump’s doing a terrific job as President too.
College is not a scam per say.
A College Degree is a product that may or may not help you in the future, and the value of a degree has gone down while tuition costs have gone up.
Is it weird I got halfway through before realizing this was a joke?
5384135
Sure, I agree the value has gone down. And some people think college will be a waste of time and instead go to trade school or take over a business from their parents. They go into auto mechanics or power washing or something and get paid very well, and make more than some dude in a cubicle with a degree in... freaking business, or something. There are other ways to end off very well in the world.
At the same time, though, if there is ever any chance to educate yourself, it'll be an advantage. Whatever level of intelligence we have in this life, we'll have it in the world to come. That's why despite my rant above, I'm in college and loving it.
5384144
You were really wrong, then. What kind of joke were you making?
Dump Trump
5384159
He's just Biden his time.
5384146
Is it an advantage to get a degree? Yes and no.
Access to College is up, graduation rates are up, and more and more people have degrees.
This isn't exactly a good thing.
Getting a degree for a particular field has become the standard entry criteria for what used to be entry level positions.
College wasn't an option for me due to family reasons: so my best option was to start my own business since I couldn't get otherwise sustaining employment.
*By Sustaining, I mean a livable wage without working 2 part time jobs while my marriage falls apart because I'm never home.
5384164
I say that wholeheartedly unapologetically. Dump. Trump
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5384180
Are you pro-Biden, or just anti-Trump?
5384183
Yes
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5384207
Of course. Wise choice.
I respect your decision
I do not care who's side of the political spectrum you are on. You all are adults, you all are human beings, you are all entitled to vote for whoever you please. I am staying out of this because I've said time and time again, politics is not my forte. I side with no one.
I hope everyone will have a pleasant day... and have some candies.
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5384151
You're not joking? I'm disappointed. Geez, when you say stuff like:
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It sounds like a parody, like something I'd see in a meme as satire of what conservatives think. If serious, it appears like you're trying to not understand what liberals are actually saying and doing. Especially that last one, how is that a reason to vote Trump? Or any politician for that matter?
5384266
Give me one goddamn reason for you to be mad. Who he votes for doesn't change who he is, and besides voting is a matter of preference. This is what's really wrong with the world, people arguing and disliking others because of a simple difference in opinion.
I may not agree with your opinion but it is yours and you should decide on your own which path to take in this election. Nice job on sharing your opinion and not just breaking to pressure on a whim. I dont support Trump nor do I support Biden.
5384266
Well, in all the examples I've listed, it's all true. Is this not the truth? I want you to think of the liberals you know and ask if they hate big-name founding fathers solely on the basis that they own slaves. They then use that as evidence to say America is some bigoted hellhole, and they want to break free from the bare minimum that is expected of them. The word liberate means to free yourself from something, which in this case is all of the norms you are expected to follow as a member of society.
And I was saying the truth when I said there are two unchangeable genders. It's simple biology. The other "genders" are liberal constructs created because they want the truth to be what they want, not what has been proven for thousands and thousands of years to be true. (Speaking of which, they still think socialism is a feasible option, but I won't go down that route.)
Sex is biological, gender isn’t.
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The only grounds people have for this movement even existing was fifty years ago when a scientist forced a boy with a botched circumcision to dress and act like a girl, which didn't work. He was put into sexual situations with his brother to see if the treatment worked, and pictures were taken of them. Then a few years later, both of them deteriorated mentally and became outcasts. Gender and sex are virtually identical, if not completely, and just because less than a percent of the population has that mental problem, it doesn't mean sex and gender are different. I will fight and die on this hill.
5384207
You know what? I'm with you lol
5384342
And you will be wrong. Gender is about social and cultural differences. Sociology, psychology and even anthropology agree with this. The science is clear.
5384294
Except that one's political opinions can say things about them as a person. Politics is a matter of how you think society should be run and governed, why shouldn't I care about what people think on that? Yes, I'm not going to like it if someone is going to vote for an authoritarian who got many thousands killed by failing to contain a pandemic, had a cruel policy of family separation, is endangering my healthcare, and is actively trying to take away my rights?
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I think the founders were complex people. They did good work founding America, but like it or not they saw fit to kick the issue of slavery down the road, if they didn't support it themselves by owning slaves. The "land of the free" was founded while preserving slavery, an obvious contradiction. In America we often treated the founders like they were holy or something, but that is not the case. I hardly think most liberals would want to tear down the good things they've done, but would rather we get the full picture of what they were like. Thomas Jefferson may have written the Declaration, but he was not a standup guy otherwise. And Columbus isn't even American at all.
I also do not think liberals want norms to simply not exist or something, what??
Yes, for most people there are two sexes. Gender is not the same thing. Even if what you're saying was true, why is it a reason to vote for Trump?
5384342
The difference between sex and gender is self-evident. One is your chromosomes and sex characteristics, and the other has to do with one's identity and social role. There's obviously a difference between these two things. This distinction would be around even if transgender and intersex people did not exist. Just because they're the same most of the time doesn't mean they'll be the same all the time.
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I'm sorry, is this not what liberals do by creating multiple genders, claiming you can shift between them, and claiming you're a bigot for pointing out that this idea that sounds very nice on paper, but is in stark contrast to how nature has operated for thousands of years? Look, I know about your condition. And I sympathize; I really do. But there's a term to describe this, and it's a dysfunction called gender dysphoria, and this new rhetoric has worked its way into non-dysphoric people who then uphold this new ideal, and all of a sudden the only truth that matters on your gender is your personal opinion. Sex and gender has been synonymous for decades, and only recently have people come up with this notion, because they want to be free of the expectation put upon them by gender roles.
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Gender dysphoria is not a mental illness.
5384509
That is not how this works.
Most people will fit just fine into being male or female, but that's not gonna be true for everyone. Most of the time people treat sex and gender interchangeably. it's technically incorrect, but most of time they're not doing anything wrong. It's just convenient and it usually works fine. Treating gender as a binary thing that matches up to one's sex works most of the time, but not all the time, and that's the important part.
Sapient human beings do not have to be bound by a restrictive binary based on sex when the reality can be far more complex for them.
Do you though?
A trans person does stop being valid when they don't feel dysphoric. Why bother to "sympathize" while trying to push this restrictive and hurtful way of thinking. Tell me, would you call a trans woman "she" even though she has XY chromosomes and according to you sex and gender are the same thing?
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God, I hate people like you. I bet you're also someone who refuses to wear a mask. Donald Trump cannot contain a pandemic if not everybody in the country will cooperate. If one person doesn't have a mask then a thousand can be infected. Would you rather us just execute everyone who sneezes like Korea. And he can't take away your rights. And if you didn't know America is already on the verge of taking away your right to vote. We are quite literally one person away from an entire shift in government. Also, he's not ''taking away you're healthcare" he's trying to take the poor health care that's cheap/free to get an actually good healthcare plan for cheap. I'm not excusing him I'm just saying know your facts before you dis him. He literally got coronavirus and worked while he had it and went straight back to working in public once he was cured.
5384594
Yes! Exactly. Took the words out of my mouth when it comes to his policies.
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5384594
Aww, you hurt me.
I wear a mask every single day, and I've been pushing everyone I know to do the same. If you haven't noticed, it's been mainly Republicans and Trump himself raising doubts about masks and lockdowns so they only have themselves to blame when people don't go along with it. He was not "cured" when he left the hospital. He was almost certainly still infected and was stunningly nonchalant about not wearing a mask around the White House. Hell, he might have even been infected in that disastrous initial debate.
What are you talking about?
Republicans' health care plans have shown to be shockingly barren so far, and what Trump himself has done is quite weak as well. They've been railing against the ACA for years on end and when they finally had their party in all branches of government they had very little show for it when it came to replacing it.
Well said my friend, well said.
5384627
Look it up, America has been on the verge of changing government/taking away your right to vote for awhile. It's 5/4 so if one person changed there mind we would be fucked and lose what makes America America
5385288
That's... not what losing your right to vote means. We change governments every 4-8 years. If you're saying what I think you're saying, it just means there won't be another election for a little while.
You know, I'm probably still not sure what you mean. What do you mean by "It's 5/4"? And what does that have to do with voting rights?
5385299
OK it's pissing me off how you're not getting this. For every five people against it five are for it. And them taking the right to vote means that the only ones allowed to vote for the president is the congress and other V.I.Ps
5385433
It's not my fault you're not explaining this well at all. It's pretty unclear.
I have no idea what you're referring to when you say there's some kind of close vote to determine if Congress determines the president. Please, give me link or something to what you're referring to.
First of all, how can you say that he handled the outbreak well, when over 200, 000 people are dead. Second, he literally wanted to open up the country when it wasn't safe, which caused a surge of cases in the USA, which is partly why the US has the highest number of cases in the world.
I have nothing against you, but voting for Trump is the dumbest idea I have ever heard.
Excuse me, what the fu-?!
Healthcare should be a right to everyone, especially in this time!
Also, Biden never lied about Trump. If you look at the number of cases in America, you'll see that, well. SHIT HIT THE FAN PRETTY QUICK!!!
I honestly don't want to get into this right now. Dealing with a Trump Supporter was not on my to-do list today. But let me say this. Trump. Doesn't. Give. A. Fuck. About. You. He doesn't care how you're doing, he doesn't care if you're sick. He just wants votes. And if he does win, (God forbid he doesn't) and World War 3 happens or some shit. I want you to look back at this moment and say, "damn, I should have done this."
Okay, first of all, you have absolutely no idea what black people have suffered through, so I don't think it's your place to say that. Second, if you don't make a big deal about racism, it's never gonna go. We need to acknowledge that racism still exists, despite what people say. It's talking about things that make them go, not putting them aside. If we don't have a conversation now, racism will still exist in the future.
And you saying that you don't see colour, is an absolute lie. You see that a person is white or that a person is black. And it's not seeing colour that is the problem, it's people letting that affect their decisions. Whether it's job employment or something as big as political positions. So acknowledging that a person is black or white isn't a problem. It's letting that affect your decisions.
5384144
I'm pretty sure if he meant for this to be a joke, he would have said it sarcastically
5385671
Oh, you mean like affirmative action? Affirmative action hurts minorities by forcibly placing them into situations they may not be comfortable in, like hiring them for jobs they're not technically qualified to be in. People should get jobs based on merit and capability, not race. Last I checked, most of the major companies in the world were excluding white people and focusing on finding colored people instead for the sake of diversity, even if they weren't as qualified.
So the person in charge of the country at the time is directly responsible for the tragedies that befall it? Was Herbert Hoover responsible for the Great Depression? Was FDR responsible for the deaths of Pearl Harbor? Was Obama responsible for the deaths of the Swine Flu?
Trump is not personally involved in the decisions of every American. If they choose not to wear masks or enforce social distancing, that's on their heads, not Trump's. But Trump did tell people of the risk, classifying it as a public health concern in January. He initiated the lockdown in the first place, didn't obstruct the CDC from telling the guidelines to America, and is trying to get things back to normal. He's at least giving people a boost, hope that things will be better in the near future. There's a light on the horizon. Whereas with Biden, he's all doom and gloom, emphasizing the deaths, emotionally guilt-tripping people who died from Covid, and blaming them all on one man. Is that not, to use the term, sickening?
Besides, you're acting like Trump can do anything he wants in Washington. No president can. And when they tried to find evidence of obstruction of power, they found nothing. Congress can still make independent choices, regardless of what the president wants.
5385671
Oh, and healthcare isn't innate to a person's rights. There's nowhere in the Bill of Rights that says such. It can certainly be accessible, and the US is still the greatest country in the world when it comes to medicinal advancements, but just because it isn't free, you're upset? And it will never be free, because what Bernie proposed is impossible without donating more than half of our income to the Government.
5385692
Poe's law is strong. The things he said seemed to border on parody.
5385712
I didn't want to come back here again, but I cannot stand to see people defend Trump's sickeningly inadequate response to a global pandemic. It is on Trump's head when people refuse to follow guidelines when he himself has repeatedly attacked masks and lockdowns, even at his own rallies which turn into super-spreader events because they're not wearing masks. He has also straight-up admitted to downplaying the threat of the virus and he's said that "it's going to disappear". His words, not mine. People depend on the government to give them accurate information about the virus, and he has failed to do so when he attacks members of his own task force and his staff contradicts his own messaging.
Uh, yes??? He didn't cause the Great Depression, but he did fail to provide relief or do much about it. Sort of like Trump did with the coronavirus.
He's sure trying though. Remember when Republicans used to act concerned about the expansion of executive power? Because I do.
That's flat-out false. Also, you're mixing up obstruction of justice and abuse of power.
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We're saying it should be a right, not that it's in the constitution. Every first-world country in the world except America has universal healthcare; it's hardly impossible. Bernie's plan isn't the only one anyway.
Brady, do you feel like answering my questions about sex and gender? You said you were prepared to fight and die on this hill.
5386195
Because I'm not about to vote for a party that encourages the opposite. I don't want to live in a world where you get harassed for saying the truth that there are two genders. Only in the past ten years has this movement ever picked up any traction anyway.
I sympathize because I know they have a problem that isn't natural, and I can't comprehend the implications. I want them to feel normal, like a proper biological boy or girl, but forcing us to adapt to their opinion is not the way to do it. Restrictive and hurtful? Is that not what you make others feel by calling people sexist transphobic bigots when they say there are two genders that no one can switch between?
I'm not going to pretend that mutilating and wounding your body will turn you into a man or woman. I'm not going to delude myself that grown men in drag twerking to children is acceptable.
See, this is a prevalent problem nowadays. Apparently, we are willing to modify simple biology by asserting that gender roles are taught, not simply inherent to ourselves. Since the dawn of time, we have known that men and women are different, and has been proven from one point in history to another.
The basis of all gender theory today is the Twin Study, where a boy with a botched circumcision was trained to act like a girl to try and experiment the words of Simone De Beauvoir. He was also subjected to all kinds of sexual child abuse with his brother. Everyone promoted this as successful, but it wasn't. When the "trans" child learned of his abuse, he said he preferred to live as a boy. He said that the transition from being raised from a girl to being a boy was the first time he actually felt happy. He felt normal. And his brother developed schizophrenia as a result of his abuse, dying of an overdose of antidepressants. And two years later, the first kid blew his head off with a sawed-off shotgun. That's the result no one talks about.
This is not science. It's not credible and not true. If gender and sex really are different, then the only proof you have is when fifty years ago, twins were tried to be raised as separate genders and failed. There are biological differences between men and women, especially in cognitive functions. And for this "theory" of sex and gender being different to be true, it must be true that there's nothing that makes a man a man except for his reproductive organs, and nothing that makes a woman a woman except for her reproductive organs. You reject the idea that there's a male and female brain, and reject any empirical differences or observed tendencies as being taught or conditioned.
If you're going to argue that men only act like men because it's taught, then why is it so highly correlated? So if 0.6% of the population identifies as trans, that means the correlation coefficient of having a peepee and acting like a male is .994. Sure, correlation doesn't equal causation, I attended the first day of high school statistics class too. But when it's .994 and it's been that way for a million years, you have to wonder.
Let's say that 99% of the population identifies as the gender they were born as. Is the only reason we're that way because we're conditioned? By dressing boys in blue and giving them trucks instead of dolls, we're perpetuating some oppressive cycle? Are we abusing children by choosing gender for them? Really think about this. There are almost infinite differences between men and women regarding cognitive and behavioral functionality. And there is no way that parents sat down with their kid and said, "Now Billy, because you're a boy, you must excel in math, handle stress less effectively, be more competitive, be less likely to give up, be more likely to choose difficult tasks over easy tasks, take risks, be less interested in nurturing behavior, and be more interested in scientific or blue-collar jobs." This theory ignores the biological differences between the sizes and developments of areas in male and female brains.
This is all backed up by dozens of clinical examples. Challenge any one of them, and you'll get a dozen more.
Parents don't need to force a gender identity onto their child. Most of the time, it just happens naturally. Although there is a certain subset of culture that is hellbent on making their kids transgender for virtue-signaling online. They pump their kid full of hormones for preventing puberty, and the hormones were actually intended for a condition where puberty symptoms appeared too forcefully too early. That means they are abusing drugs onto their child for basically no reason. Seventy-five to ninety-five percent of gender-dysphoric youth ended up happy with their biological sex simply after passing through puberty.
I said I'd fight and die on this hill. You still haven't conquered it, and I'm still alive and well. Your move.
Oh, and one more thing. If Trump identified as a woman while in office, what would you do? Acknowledge the absurdity of this theory? Or acknowledge Trump as the first female president?
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Hey, you stuck to your word.
So some politicians believe there are more than two genders, so what? I'm talking legislation. Trump has endangered the LGBT community with his actions and you must realize how this is wrong. Any "harassment" you might face for saying there are two genders doesn't even come close to what they have to deal with every day.
You still haven't answered my other question. Would you, or would you not, you call a trans woman "she" or a trans man "he"?
I don't give care if someone feels bad because I called them a transphobe when they undermine trans people. Here's the difference: A person can stop being a transphobe, but they cannot stop being transgender.
No, you don't sympathize, Brady. You cannot comprehend the implications, so you could try listening to them you know. They'll tell you more how it works if you ask in good faith. I was willing to maybe give you the benefit of the doubt earlier, but not anymore. Even if being transgender was "unnatural", I don't see how that matters. People used to say that being gay was unnatural too. It is certainly not a mere matter of opinion either.
People tend to use their pronouns based on appearance, so if a trans person passes they're not forcing you to change how you do things. Even if they don't it's not even a big deal. Saying you want them to feel like a "proper biological boy/girl" is just about the most condescending, insulting thing you could say to them. We have tried to do that, and it doesn't work, it is like torture to do so, just like gay conversion therapy.
I do not reject that idea. Of course men and women are different, but that doesn't mean that gender roles aren't for the most part socially created. Take a look around and see how much gender roles differ between different countries and time periods. There is overlap of course, but an enormous world of difference. It is extremely difficult to assess to what extent behavior is influenced by gender, but we have seen that gender roles can shift and change quite dramatically.
On the contrary, it does show that people have a gender identity and forcing them to act contrary to it is harmful. It was wrong to raise that child as a girl, and it is also wrong to force a transgender person to act as their assigned sex. In this scenario, this boy's gender and sex were indeed the same. But he was only one person, and that's not going to be the case all of the time.
I am well aware of the twin study you talk about, but it has nothing to do with the crux of my argument. Notice that I when you say sex and gender are the same for most people, I don't disagree with you. But it's not going to be the case for everyone, and that's meaningful. Even for people whose sex and gender line up, there is a very clear difference between one's chromosomes and sex characteristics, and their identity and social role.
Come on Brady, that is not how transitioning works, and you are free to look up how it does. We know that using puberty blockers can be beneficial for children who are actually transgender, and it's the children who typically have to convince their parents, not the other way around. And no, that little statistic is not true, it is an extremely misleading stat based on bad studies with bad methodology.
Given that Trump and his administration has repeatedly attacked LGBT rights, it would likely be a joke. For Trump to do this in actuality would first require that he be a completely different person.
The ball is in your court, Brady.
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Looks like I've been blocked by you for being too good at responding to this nonsense. I had a really good response too.
Believe it or not, I didn't come here to hate you or "stroke my ego", I kept posting to clear up misconceptions and myths about liberals, Covid-19, gender, sex, and gender identity and I didn't anyone else to be misinformed. I figured you were just misguided was all, at least at first. If you do want to learn more, here is a good place to start, and there are many trans users here who could tell you more if you want to know.
You know, River Shy was right about you. You don't exactly exude sympathy right now. I didn't even get the chance to debunk your latest claims, I guess you won't fight and die on that hill after all.
Mission... Accomplished!
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I would call them whatever they want me to call them. Mostly because I couldn't tell their gender by first glance. What's astounding now is that if you have to specify your preferred pronoun when you first introduce yourself, that's a red flag.
If anything, they've flourished under him. Under the Obama administration, he was actively against such a thing, and it was only a 5-4 vote by the Supreme Court that legalized gay marriage. With that said, trans and gay people are more free here than anywhere else in the world. You can't claim they're oppressed and yet have anyone who says otherwise be shamed publicly. If anything, people who say there are two genders are being oppressed and silenced to purport this new growing opinion.
Btw, I think Trump was right to ban them from the military. Gender Dysphoria is a serious medical condition. You don't know what they're suffering through, after all. What could possibly go wrong with having a mentally unstable group with a 1 in 3 suicide rate and depression rates five-to-six-times higher than the average person enter the military?
Your body perceives it as a wound. That's why they have that significant recovery period afterwards. Do you not remove genatilia? Do you not introduce foreign hormones into your body? Do you not perform surgery to resemble or create new genetalia? Do you not block the natural process of the human body with puberty medication just because you want your voice to be higher? This is bodily mutilation, and not even out of surgical necessity. It's just because you want to. Any surgeon should have the right to refuse service to anyone who does not need treatment.
Oh, now all of a sudden you want to debate misleading statistics and methodology? I'm not taking that from someone who bases this modern theory off sexual abuse.
Then you don't know me as well as you think you do. I know that they are usually very unhappy. I know they're going through a trial that not a lot of people can relate to, and that they endure a lot from people who actually reject them on their problem. It'd be shameful of me to ignore their pain. But at the same time, it'd be shameful of me to ignore the fact that this is a legitimate mental illness that needs to be treated, and not by morphing their bodies into something resembling the opposite gender and pushing then further into it.
Look. It'll likely be very annoying over the next few days as we argue and spit at each other. And what's the point in debating if we never decide on anything? You'll never sway to the way I think, and I'll definitely not sway to the way you think, so any further discussion will be a waste of time and energy. Why do you come here if you hate me? To try to provoke me and stroke your ego? To not let that thing Brady said go unanswered because that'll give off the impression he won the argument? Come on, man! We're better than this.
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I'm not saying that people should hire other unqualified people for no reason. I'm saying that sometimes a black person can be extremely qualified for a job, but they don't get it because they're black. Stop trying to twist up my words here, you no exactly what I meant!
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Trump is totally responsible for what happened! He didn't do ANYTHING to protect people and that's what lead to all the deaths. Don't try telling me some bullshit about how "Trump did do something" or "he actually did try" because that's the dumbest shit I've ever heard.
Also, Trump is literally the one who tells people not to wear masks! I don't know what rock you've been living under but if you see Trumps rallies, he doesn't wear a mask at all. HOW THE HELL DO YOU THINK HE GOT COVID, HUH!?!?
Up until he got corona, he never wear a mask! And even after, he still doesn't wear a mask! The bitch thinks he's immune! THATS NOT HOW COVID FUCKING WORKS!
So please, don't give me this BS of "Trump isn't responsible" because he 100% is. He doesn't encourage social distancing or mask wearing and he's the reason America has so many cases.
And one more thing. Are you really going to vote for a person that thinks injecting BLEACH into your system will kill COVID? Is this really what's its come to?
Let's face it, Trump isn't qualified to be President, the only reason he was elected is because America is not as open minded as it thinks it is and they didn't want Hillary because she is a woman.
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I completely agree. This intolerance is coming from the Left, though, not the Right. Anytime someone expresses an opinion that goes against Leftist rhetoric, you label them intolerant of other's opinions. Odd, right?
You downright think anyone who voted for Trump is evil, including all the minorities who did so. You have the entire news network, institutions, and entertainment industry on your side, but you're still incapable of tolerating others. The Left practices tolerance in the most superficial of ways, labeling people solely by their skin color or sexual orientation, the same exact things they preach against. You say you're fighting Nazis while silencing those who disagree with you and endorsing powerful figures to uphold your ideology so your social order can roll on unopposed until it engulfs America. It's totally not an oppressive regime at all!
(Actually, I kind of agree with you fighting Nazis. Communists hated them too.)
I didn't want Hillary to win because she is a snake who cozies up to you with a creepy smile before condemning you. It's a common trend among politicians. Being a woman has nothing to do with her corruption. I don't judge by gender, but I'm not so sure about you. You're implying that the only people who voted for her are angry men who got dunk'd on by her epic Berns on TV, and not the additional countless minorities and women who voted for Trump. Will you tolerate them? Or will you say they ain't black?
"But why didn't women vote for Hillary the same way black people voted for Obama?" Maybe because you're replacing a charismatic forty-year-old black dude with a seventy-year-old white woman?
If the media focused on Hillary's mistakes as much as they talk about Trump, she wouldn't have even won the popular vote. And if I did have any inclination to agree with her, I would be off-put by her desperate appeals to the youth by trying to be hip and trendy. Anytime she touches anything popular, she kills it.
This is actually very vital to understanding psychology of the average voter. Trump might not have understood politics in 2016, but he did understand people. He understood media, being a subject of it for thirty years. In the end, Trump's message got out to more people. He was the one that took a struggling and divided Republican Party and united it, for better or worse. Hillary almost lost to a socialist, and the only reason she got the nomination was because the DNC rigged it against Bernie. Trump's message was easy to understand. Hillary was just acting as the antithesis to him.
In the past, with Howard Dean and Mitt Romney, they had one vulnerable flaw that the media exploited to make them lose, such as Dean's scream or Mitt's 47% comment. But Trump was different. He gave the media a new controversial moment every week. Because of the disproportionate amount of time people in media spent on Donald, Donald milked the media for 5 billion dollars' worth of free publicity. So the American people viewed the election as Trump vs the field. The more people tried to tear him down, the stronger he became. He feeds off the hate you pour on him. He's like that demon in Ghostbusters.
Make America Great Again is just so much more impactful than whatever she had to offer. What was it again? Love Trumps Hate? It literally has his name in the title! It's just giving more attention to Donny, not to mention implying that they're fighting a losing battle. Oh, no, wait, her message was, "America is great because America is good." What on earth does that even mean? Oh, right, it was, "Pokèmon Go to the polls." And Americans certainly did Pokèmon go to the polls to elect Trump president.