• Published 22nd Aug 2020
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Twilight Finally Says No - Animation Crusader



In which Twilight refuses to take the throne and explains why that would be a bad idea.

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Hold That Retirement

“So after much consideration,” Celestia finished, “my sister and I have decided it is time for us to retire!”

Spike and the girls all gasped at the announcement. It suddenly made sense why they were called so urgently.

There was a bright flash, and Discord appeared, wearing the classic outfit of a journalist- the brown vest, white undershirt, black tie, and a beige fedora.

“Breaking news!” He practically crowed, holding up a pad of paper and a pencil. “The royal princesses retiring! I have so many questions!” He flew up to the royal sisters’ faces, asking, “Who will take over? Who will run Equestria? Will it be someone tall, dark, and handsome? Or will it be the Lord of Chaos?” Several duplicates of his talon hand formed in mid-air and pointed to him unsubtly.

Well used to Discord’s antics, and amused by them, the sisters merely smiled as they pointed past him- at Twilight.

The group’s eyes widened, especially Twilight’s.

Discord followed Celestia’s hoof, and rolled his eyes at the meaning of the gesture. “Oh fine, go with the obvious choice.”

Twilight made a little whimpering noise, processing the sisters’ intention for her to succeed them. “You’re retiring?!”

“Princesses can retire?” Spike asked. He only knew one other case of a retiring royal, the former Dragon Lord Torch, father of his friend Dragon Lord Ember, but he hadn’t ever heard of princesses retiring.

Luna chuckled at Spike’s innocent question. “Of course, we can. I, for one, am looking forward to a little R & R, maybe a trip to Silver Shoals.”

“And you want me to take your place?” Twilight clarified, her voice still strained from the sheer anxiety already sinking in.

Both princesses nodded. “With the help of your friends, of course.”

Showing Twilight they would be by her side through the change, Spike and the girls huddled around her, Rarity even going as far as resting a foreleg across Twilight’s back. For a brief moment, Twilight looked around at her friends with a smile before returning her gaze to the princesses.

“We can’t think of anypony more worthy-,” Celestia said as she spread her wings to glide down and join the group.

“No.” The one word interruption halted Celestia’s movement.

Everyone blinked, staring at the speaker. Twilight wasn’t smiling anymore; she was frowning.

“I’m sorry?” Celestia apologized, folding her wings back in.

“I said no,” Twilight repeated herself, stepping forward. “Forgive me Celestia and Luna, but I can’t take your place. I won’t.”

Discord’s eyes expanded with interest. “Ooh, now there’s a twist!” His body split into pieces, all spinning around in various directions to show just how twisty he found Twilight’s response.

Celestia and Luna glanced at each other, both tilting their heads at Twilight confusedly.

“Why not?” Celestia inquired, a look of concern crossing her muzzle.

“Uh, because it wouldn’t be right.” Twilight shook her head. “You say that Equestria has been at its most peaceful in a long time, but I think the last four to eight years have been anything but that due to all the crazy things that have happened since Nightmare Moon returned.” She cringed quickly upon realizing she had just referenced a dark point in Luna’s life. “…No offense, Luna.”

Luna ducked her head for a moment before waving a hoof dismissively. “None taken, Twilight.”

“…well, peaceful compared to five hundred years ago, I guess,” Celestia relented, looking away awkwardly and staring at a flag on the wall.

“That’s not even getting into how the timing for me to become Equestria’s main princess is all wrong,” Twilight continued, ignoring Celestia’s reply. “I just started the School of Friendship, my passion project. I’ve finally found a career that I love just like my friends have, and to become sole princess would mean I would have to leave it. Sure, I could do what you did with the School for Gifted Unicorns, but it wouldn’t be the same because I wouldn’t get to spend nearly enough time there. What would the point of starting the School of Friendship be if I had to resign after the first year to rule?”

Celestia opened her mouth to reply, but Twilight kept going.

“And what about my friends?” Twilight gestured to her companions. “Moving to Ponyville was the best decision in my life. Making friends with them helped me grow into the pony I am today, and they’ve been there for me through the toughest challenges. Now you want me to go backwards?”

“Backwards?” Celestia frowned in confusion at Twilight’s phrasing. “We don’t-?”

“That’s what moving back to Canterlot so I could rule Equestria would be,” she insisted. “Moving back would mean being alone again without my friends, just like before.”

“We mentioned that your friends could help you rule, didn’t we?” Luna interjected, understanding Twilight’s concerns of loneliness.

“With what time? None of them can move to Canterlot with me because all their jobs are based in Ponyville, and they’re already stretched thin as it is teaching at the school and pursuing their own careers. Asking them to make frequent trips up here to help me rule Equestria would be too much!”

Behind Twilight, the rest of the girls murmured with each other that Twilight had a point. Pinkie suggested uncovering the mirror pool, but that was quickly shot down.

“Then there’s the matter of you two,” Twilight pointed a hoof at the princesses.

“Us?” Luna blinked, raising a hoof to her chest.

“Retiring doesn’t make much sense, at least half of it doesn’t.” She looked up at her mentor, who had finally stopped staring at the flag sometime during Twilight’s speech to gaze back down at her student. “Celestia, I can understand you wanting to retire. You’ve been in this position for over a thousand years; you’ve more than earned retirement.” She glanced over to Luna. “You, on the other hoof, I don’t understand retiring. You just got back a few years ago.”

The princess of the night shuffled on her haunches. “…My sister came up with the idea of retiring together. That way we could spend more time with each other. As it is now, she’s always awake when I’m asleep, and vice versa. Unless we make specific arrangements, which sometimes get canceled for one reason or another, our schedules don’t overlap very much.”

Pinkie tilted her head, and raised a hoof. “But, if Celestia retired and you didn’t, couldn’t you two just make plans whenever you have a break? It might not be as much time as you would have if you both retired, but it would still be more than you’re getting. I think.” The party pony tapped her chin, wondering if she had that right.

“Twilight,” Celestia spoke up, “are you sure you don’t want to rule?”

Twilight lowered her head regretfully. “I’m sorry, but I have to respectfully decline. Everypony has their own destiny they need to follow. Mine is being an Element of Harmony and running the School of Friendship, not ruling a kingdom.” She lifted her head to face her mentor. “Celestia, do you truly want to retire?”

“I do,” Celestia answered with a swift nod.

“Luna?”

Frowning, Luna gazed at Celestia. “Sister, I apologize, but I don’t feel the same way. I feel I can keep going. I only agreed to the retirement because I wanted to spend more time with you, and after spending that one day in your horseshoes, I wasn’t sure if I could handle that every day.”

“With all due respect, Princess, I believe you could,” Applejack said, taking off her hat to show her sincerity and respect.

“Yeah,” Rainbow Dash added, “the first day is always a shock to the system. I remember when I first started on the Ponyville weather team, and wondering if I could handle all the responsibilities that came with it.”

“Or when we started teaching at the School of Friendship,” Fluttershy said softly, catching Discord’s eye and continuing her thought at his encouragement. “I was so nervous about teaching in front of a class several times a day for most of the week, but I eventually grew comfortable with it.”

“But, if I started ruling during the day, who would guard the dream realm?” Luna pointed out. “I can’t hold a day of court and then protect ponies’ dreams at night.”

“Nopony said you had to rule during the day.” Rarity stepped forward. “Twilight declined because she believes ruling Equestria does not align with her destiny. For the same reason, it wouldn’t be right for you to give up the night.”

“Court has to be held during the day,” Luna replied, somewhat flummoxed by what Rarity was suggesting. “Nopony would be willing to switch to holding court at night.”

“Not right away, at least,” Celestia granted, already thinking what would have to be done to set up Luna for ruling individually. “It would be too much of a change in a short period of time for everything involving the government. Night court would need to be slowly transitioned into over the period of perhaps five, ten years at minimum. Of course until then, my retirement would leave day court without somepony in charge. Somepony would need to handle the procedures for the day until the transition is completed.”

“What are you thinking? Another student?” Rainbow asked, seeing the pensive look on the princess’s muzzle. “Give somepony in the office a promotion?”

“Maybe Princess Luna needs to find herself a student,” Applejack piped up, having put her hat back on her head after giving Luna her support. “She’ll be the boss, which means they have to report to her.”

“…I don’t know. I’d probably make a terrible teacher,” Luna said, suddenly nervous about Applejack’s suggestion.

“Oh nonsense, Luna,” Celestia replied, touching a hoof to her sister’s wing. “You did a fine job with the Cutie Mark Crusaders, from what you’ve told me about visiting their dreams. I’m sure you would be just as successful with a regular student.”

Luna quietly grinned at her sister’s support, unsure of what else to say.

“As nice as the thought of Luna taking on a student to pass on her knowledge and abilities would be, putting a student in charge of day court would be far too much pressure to put on somepony inexperienced with political workings,” Celestia continued.

Discord watched the back and forth, raising an eyebrow. “So Moonbutt isn’t getting her own student?” He shook his head. “A shame. Would’ve been interesting to see who ends up as her protégé, maybe that Moondancer girl. Slap a different mane and tail color on her and she’s a Twilight clone.” In his claws, he conjured up a Moondancer figurine and a paintbrush dripping with Twilight’s colors, swishing the brush over the figurine and making it look like a tiny Twilight.

Spike had gotten a piece of parchment from somewhere, and was currently jotting down notes. “Okay, so what I’m hearing is we’re looking for somepony with plenty of political experience and an understanding of how day court works to help ease Equestria through the transition period to Luna ruling on her own and holding night court.” He scratched the side of his head, struggling to think. “We’d probably need to interview all of Celestia’s advisors to find the best candidate.”

“Ooh! Ooh!” Pinkie bounced in place, looking at Spike. “I know! Whatever happened to that prince guy that embarrassed Rarity at our first Grand Galloping Gala? The one that Rarity didn’t want to find her glass slipper?”

Rarity’s cheeks turned a shade of red at that particular memory being brought up, but Pinkie’s thought hit a chord with the rest of the group.

“Prince Blueblood!” Spike and the other four mares chorused, recalling his name. They all turned to the princesses for their thoughts.

The sisters shared a look.

“Blueblood did grow up surrounded by politics,” Celestia remembered, “and he’s been working hard since he became a stallion. He’s been an ambassador for the past few years, but I know he’d appreciate more central duties.”

Luna added, recalling the few bits she knew about their relative, “He’s also distantly related to us, so a member of the royal family would still be holding court.”

Nodding in agreement with her sister, Celestia said to Spike, “Start a list of candidates for the day court director and put Blueblood at the top, I’ll fill out the rest.” The young dragon did as she instructed and scribbled down more.

Twilight cleared her throat, signaling to everyone else she wanted to speak up once more. “On that note, I think we should end the discussion for today. It started out one way and spiraled into something very different. Let’s give Celestia time to put her list together, and tomorrow we can discuss the finer details of setting up Luna’s transition.”

“Good call, Twilight,” Spike agreed, flapping his wings and preparing to leave.

“Aw phooey,” Discord joked, “and the conversation was just getting interesting.” He conjured up a can of soda, but when he cracked open the tab to take a drink, popcorn dropped out of the can and into his mouth.

“Ooh! I want one of those!” Pinkie bounced beneath Discord, and the draconequus created another can. Pinkie snatched it up, and used her curly mane to open the tab. Proceeding to hold the can with her mane, she exited the throne room, gobbling up popcorn as she went.

The rest of the group followed Pinkie out. As Twilight made to leave last, Celestia glided down from her throne.

“Twilight, a word?” Celestia said.

Twilight turned around. “What is it?”

“I just want to say that I’m very proud of you,” the princess stated, smiling brightly.

The purple alicorn blinked at her mentor. “Huh? But I ruined your plans to retire. How could you possibly be proud of me?”

“Because you finally declined a request from me. Twilight, for as long as I’ve known you, not once have you ever said no when I asked for you to do something. In the past, I could’ve asked you to do something ridiculous like go live in the woods for twenty years and count sticks, and you would’ve done it.” She chuckled at the ridiculousness of the example. “I’ve guided you into a life so extraordinary, and now you’re choosing what you do with it. You know what you want to do, and you’re sticking to it instead of dropping everything the moment I ask to involve you in something else. That is why I’m proud of you.”

“Wow. Thank you, Celestia. That-that means a lot.” Twilight frowned for a moment. “Even though, even though it means you can’t retire quite yet?”

Celestia glanced back at her sister, sitting on her throne. “Oh, I may still be able to retire. I ruled on my own for quite some time, perhaps it’s Luna’s turn to be in the spotlight. Only, she won’t be alone like I was.”

“No, she won’t,” agreed Twilight, smiling in the night princess’s direction. “See you tomorrow?”

“Of course, Twilight. Have a good evening.”

With their final words said, Twilight departed to catch up with her friends while Celestia returned to her sister.

They had a lot to discuss.


In Discord’s house within the chaos dimension, the draconequus himself sauntered down a hall, having used the downstairs to go up to the second floor.

“That Twilight,” he shook his head in amusement, “turning down the chance to be the top princess. She keeps surprising me.” Stopping at a door, he opened it, revealing a room full of orbs. Within each orb showed something different, whether it was another place in a different time, or that same place at the current time.

Discord plucked an orb off a crowded shelf, and peered into it. Squinting at the orb’s contents, he could see the royal sisters’ throne room, possibly ten to twenty years later. Twilight and her friends stood within the room, surrounding a purple unicorn that eerily reminded Discord of Starlight and Sunburst at the same time. Spike and the mares he knew looked so different from how they were at the present. Spike was tall and far too buff for Discord to believe he would realistically grow, and except for Twilight, the mares had bags around their eyes while also sporting new accessories. As for Twilight…

Discord shrugged, tossing the orb aside. “Eh, it was probably for the best. The Celestia look does not work for Twilight at all.”

Author's Note:

Thanks to Trinary for feedback on the initial drafts. They pointed out it would be a bad idea for Luna to take on a student during the transition into her ruling solo, as well as her giving up the night to rule the day when Twilight refused ruling for the same reason. Their advice convinced me to go back and add discussion why those things wouldn't work.

I haven't seen many fics tackle the subject of Twilight refusing the throne. The only one I can name is "Put That Crown Back Where It Came From" by Ashfur.

Comments ( 259 )

My thoughts entirely. Thank you.

I love this story!:pinkiehappy:

Ah, an AU fic where the change is logical and well within the personalities of the characters. My favorite. Good stuff.

Now THIS scenario makes WAY more SENSE!!!

Thank you!

This could be the prequel for it's own saga. The setup is perfect for continuation

10398204
I don't know about a continuation, but I'm grateful for the positive comment.

Oh this one was GOOD and Twilight's arguments all make so much sense. As do the proposed solutions. Damn, A+

10398211
Good wow or bad wow?


10398213
I'm not even in school anymore, but I'll happily take that A+ :twilightsmile:

I so freaking loved seeing all of this.
Especially with it being point out about why Luna was retiring and how it made no sense for her to do so.
And how she decides to not retire. I just loved all of that.

10398221
Thank you! Like Twilight, I understood Celestia wanting to retire, but Luna hasn't been back that long so her retiring in canon really confused me.

10398223
Oh good, that's a relief. The way you trailed off with the '...' made me worry.

10398205 Yeah, really!
This is the way that episode SHOULD have gone rather than the way it actually did.

The other thing that's always bugged me about Celestia and Luna abdicating/retiring is turning control of the sun and moon over to Twi.
I mean, they're talents are stamped on their respective BUTTS, for Pete's sake!
Raising the sun and moon are THEIR talents, not HERS!

The writers seriously screwed the later seasons of the show up to all hell.

I mean, I still love the show, but good grief!

10398230
That’s okay. I’m just amazed at how your story made so much more sense than the official one. So you get no criticism from me.

10398238
Yeah, it makes sense the most for Twilight's character arc. She starts out as a student of Celestia, gains her own student in Starlight, and then ends up with a bunch of students. Ruling Equestria doesn't fit in there.

Twilight sounded like a mare possessed here, and not in a good way. It almost felt like she was reading plot points off cue cards; for the first half, at least. Everything else was alright, but the initial deconstruction still feels too "robotic" to me, for lack of a better word.

If this gets y'all through the night, cool beans, but this sort of thing just isn't for me. Sorry.

10398240
No argument there.


10398241
Like I said in my footnote, I had some help from Trinary when putting this argument together. My original version had Luna taking over the day and getting a student for dream duty, but they explained to me why going with those ideas would be hypocritical.

10398250
Fair. I tried to roll with Twilight's logical thinking, but I guess it got too logical at some point. Thank you for your honesty.

10398258
To be fair, I think my qualms might be more of a me thing than a you thing. I've gotten a bit... irritated with deconstruction fics over the past year or so.

10398262
Also valid. I understand the feeling.

10398240
And the fact Luna didn't get to enjoy her destiny of raising the moon(and dreamguarding) for much long compared to Celestia raising the sun.
Heck, Celestia literally raised the moon longer than Luna, the actual alicorn who was supposed to be doing that(but sadly couldn't due to the NMM fiasco for a 1000 years). That's just not right.

With this, the Legion of Doom will likely never come to be...unless it were for Luna's sake which I find unlikely. Only question now is how Chryssy is going to be dealt with since she, as far as I know, is still wandering Equestria plotting her next move.

10398293
From the looks of it, the only danger lovebuggo queen will pose is only to herself with how badly her mental health state was in.
And how Mean 6 showed she nearly got killed by one of her own schemes, most likely whatever she will come up with in that state would most likely would only get herself hurt or worse.

Good story😁👍🏼

10398296
I really don't get why did they do that.
Like why didn't Luna speak up at Celestia about that in the show? Like her saying "But Tia, I haven't enjoyed my own destiny for much long since my return. My moon.. it missed me raising it dearly. I can just feel it"

You did a good job doing this

10398245
The neurotic bookworm which had to be thrown out of the library/castle cause she didn't have any/estranged all her friends and nearly ruined in her own school by strictly adhering to conventional thinking: ends as a teacher.

That is supposed to make sense?

Truly brilliant! I love this. I really enjoyed adding in an explanation on why Luna wanted to retire when she only on the throne again for a few years.

In my option Celestia is not allowed to retired too

10398293
I like to think in this 'verse, Grogar is actually real and made the Legion of Doom like Discord did, of course without the whole cop-out.

10398342
Yep, and if you don't like it, the 'Back' button is up in the left corner. Have a nice day. :raritywink:

10398371
Yeah, felt the need to explain that.


10398375
Hey, if you were ruling a country that dealt with various magical threats over centuries alone, you'd want to retire too. I think Celestia gets a pass on this one.

Y’know...this makes sense. I tend to feel that a lot of stories that try to “fix” things that happen in the show feel a little forced or fall a little flat, or even both. But I really like the way you presented this.

10398409
Thank you for the nice words!

Wonderful work! I quite enjoyed it.

10398418
That said, you could stand to make Twilight's voice sound more like Twilight's. She needs to speak to Celestia like she's been her teacher. It needs to be difficult for her to say no. She needs to have more interaction with her friends over this.

I do like the idea, but the execution could be improved.

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We can't assume her next scheme will blow up in her face. While her own hubris has been the downfall of just about every one of her schemes, it would be foolish to believe that she would always fail because of it. All it would take is one good idea and she would become a major threat to Equestria again.

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Given the insane state she was in now, most likely she will goof up HARD now.
Since she lost her hive, it affected her performance badly.

In fact she might have trouble coming up with a competent good idea due to her mind is busy losing its sanity from the isolation.
With what she might pull, she might just get caught and locked up and that would be it for her.

This is a story for those who think Celestia and Luna retiring is a bad idea, and that Twilight found her true calling as a teacher rather than a ruler.

This is why I never did watch the finale - Twilight moving away from her friends, and the very castle the Tree gave to her, makes zero sense whatsoever. Twilight never really wanted to be a princess to begin with, so making her THE Princess is just a dick move by Celestia, Luna, and Hasbro.
Nope. She's still Ponyville's princess, and principal of that school. I refuse to accept any other ending.

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