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Celestia and Luna didn't allow Discord to choose punishment for the Legion of Doom, after he had joined three villains and personified as Grogar. Twilight, after realizing that Discord will not be able to choose the punishment, she decides that she will try to reform the trio. It will not be easy. While she does this, the Mane 6 need to decide if they should forgive Discord after what he did.
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you used the word 'trio' quite a bit here. Maybe fix that? Your first paragraph is like a first impression. If it isn't good, then people will start to judge the rest of the story.
Interesting! Tracking...
Interesting first start. Something to keep an eye on.
Sooo this story mainly about everyone being hypocritical?
I mean they forgive the evil trio and try to reform them including two which are pretty evil and masters of manipulation, and another who pure power hungry.
Still give them another chance but with Discord...it's While she does this, the Mane 6 and the Two Royal Sisters need to decide if they should forgive Discord after what he did.
Well one I blame the writers for screwing up Discord redemption, but the other bit is what i mentioned.
They willing to forgive and give the most evil trio another chance despite everything they done but with Discord they will continue to mistrust him and treat him like before dirt.
I mean only Fluttershy ever really tried to make thinsg work with Discord every other pony ingores or hates him when he pops up.
Reading
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I'm really sorry for the mistake in the first paragraph. But i'm already correct it.
Interesting concept. I'm always down for a good redemption story so Imma follow this.
A bit of an overuse of the word "trio" I think.
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I know. But I just corrected
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Oh, I had the story opened for a while before reading it so I didn't notice, but I find it much better now.
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Thanks
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and what about Sombra? It's no fair that he has to be punished, but not the trio
I already like this story! Looking forward for the next chapter!
This looks really interesting! I love it already, can't wait for the next chapter.
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Assuming that Sombra wasn't just a manifestation of the darkness and evil his mother made him to be, and not the real Sombra who is already reformed and looking for the shards of Princess Amore with Radiant Hope. Like a separation type thing with how Nightmare Rarity and Pony of Shadows happened.
So Celestia, Luna and Twilight just disregard Chrysalis's threat that the villains will "always return" to try and destroy them? Not to mention everything else the three did, which they chose to do completely independent of "Grogar's" design? I have trouble believing that.
Ouch, poor Fluttershy and poor Discord. And a sympathetic pat on the shoulder for Twilight for getting herself into this.
I think you overdramatized, got overboard with Fluttershy reaction
She speaks about it as if someone shouted at her, insulted her or even worse as if she was some rape and abuse victim
Replace the later part of this chapter, parts of "because Discord lied to me" with something much more serious and you will probably notice it too that it fits something more serious
in the next chapter..............Discord leave Equestria forever or for long time and he say: I'm sorry everypony, including Fluttershy, i well be a peace
I'm sorry, but all the Discord-bashing in this chapter is really distasteful. The Mane Six are overlooking the fact that, while Discord did cause the problem, he had good intentions from the start (unlike with the Tirek incident), and even risked his own life to help them escape from the villains.
Flurry Heart diveboom!
i'm: in
hull, hull, and hull: hoof, hoof, and hoof
Multiple times you said retired, but you meant reformed. I'm sorry! I'm an editor, I can't help it!
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I just corrected it. Sorry for the mistakes
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It's okay. Sorry for the corrections.
I'm surprised RD didn't punch Discord to kingdom come.
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Even with good intentions his actions were stupid and reckless, to say the least. He put all Equestria into danger to teach Twilight a lesson she didn't need and manipulated four living creatures to essentially sacrifice them for this. And for his help he deserves to be just left without his magic instead of proper petrification. Because he physically can't stop being a living disaster as we know from Discordant Harmony.
I wonder if Chrysalis would be reuniting with her hive in this story.
Nice to see the group not immedietly forgive Discord and give him no consequences for his actions like in the show.
I'm not sure you wanted Flurry to also be there.
Why would Chrysalis deny that Fluttershy is a whiner?
Didn't the others already know about that?
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Oops. My mistake. But I already corrected
That phrase meant that Chrysalis thought Fluttershy was a crybaby. But I changed the words to deny to agree.
They did know, only that they had forgotten what Discord had done
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It just seems hypocritical for the Mane Six to keep holding the genuinely regretful Discord's mistakes against him, yet have no problem with giving the villainous trio a second chance despite them showing no remorse for their actions whatsoever.
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Heh, shame on me for staying on the page so long before reading then.
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To be fair Discord was already given a second chance and this is the second time he betrayed his friends. With the trio only Chrysalis got a single outstretched hoof. Its not like Discord's being punished in any other way himself.
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Agreed. The trio does not deserve their second chance either, though.
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Discord didn't "betray" them. He was trying to help Twilight gain confidence in herself. His scheme did have a positive result in mind, unlike what happened with Tirek.
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To be unfair they expect him to be perfect.
They seem to forget they made mistakes a lot of them,
Mare Do Well is one of them the wedding is another, AppleJack poisoning nearly the entire town with bake bads due to being too stubborn to get help in handling the harvest.
Rainbow blowing up the weather factory, Twilight using the need it want ti spell.
Fluttershy flooding the town with the paraspites twice.. she hid some in her home after the first batch was sent to the everfree forest, and were twice the number.
Rarity using that manifestation spell Spike being too much of a coward to stop her till almost too late.
Pinkie getting intot he mirror pool how Twilight handled it.
There many mistakes they made, yet they been forgiven and given many chances Discord made a mistake, the Evil Trio, they didn't make a mistake they knew what they ere doing and what they wanted.
So what they are doing is this. They giving everypony and centaur changeling a chance to change despite how they nearly destroyed Equestria on purpose more then once!
But they can't give Discord any slack and must make him miserable no matter what.
FOR PETE'S SAKE He trying he really trying but he not PERFECT, also he almost died to make Fluttershy happy. The tea party rememmber!
Hmm, that desire to feed makes so much sense. I feel bad for Chrysalis, kind of.
So Chrysalis was trying to conquer Equestria to feed her changelings with endless love. Make you think that rage and anger is for being hungry
Know what... Discord plan might have been getting the villains reform but not Sombra... He is dead again
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In some way, he was the worst of all of them?
Or at least in their present time
He had a mind-controlled army and .......
Surprisingly that's the only super bad thing he did but that happened in alternate timeline
War, conquest, usurp of the throne?
Most of the villains tried it like Nightmare Moon, Chrysalis, Starlight Glimmer,etc but they didn't use an army without any free will like some kind of machines. Thought Starlight was close to that one
I like the way you set up Chrysalis's struggle and write her personality. I'm guessing that your gonna be going through their problems one at a time.
I dont think you needed to clarify why Twilight was mad at Chrysalis here.
I think Escorpian was ment to be Scorpan.
I'll use this as an example and say that you can simply call Twilight Sparkle just Twilight. Using her full name all the time can get a bit awkward and annoying.
I think this could have been split into multiple paragraphs.
Very interested to see what comes next
Who can't say no to that cover art
Sureeeee
EEEEEEEE FLUTTERCORD VIBES
In the show Chrysalis made it perfectly clear they (the villains) would never stop trying to take over Equestria. Not to mention they had no remorse for their actions and, with the exception of Chrysalis who was defiant to the end, scared that they were going to be punished.
The writers obviously put that line about the villains never stopping to try and justify them being turned to stone but some people were fine with the trio just being locked up in Tartarus. Me? I'm indifferent to it. My only other thought was that plenty of people were going to be upset about Cozy being petrified.
They intended for the villains to never be reformed because even they felt reforming every villain was silly. Just wish they hadn't teased possible in the Frenemies episode, instead having them discover Villainous Friendship and serve as a negative reflection to the Mane Six's friendship. Doubt the writers would have gone with it just because they want to stress that only morally good people can have true friends.
Meanwhile as unthought out as Discord's plan was, I was in a way touched that he was so confident in Twilight that he would bring back several major villains because he KNEW she could beat them. Unfortunately he was so full of himself that he didn't think to keep the villains in check. Discord's ego was always one of his biggest flaws
Some people wanted a scene where Discord points out that Celestia has done similar Trickster Mentor stuff in the first three seasons: Nightmare Moon, Discord himself, and King Sombra. Celestia believed Twilight would succeed but she always sent her in blind. While there wasn't much Celestia could actually do, I feel she could have helped her pupil be a little bit more prepared instead of just being confident Twilight and her friends would win. I honestly think that would have been an interesting concept to explore; Celestia and Discord being a bit more alike than they realize.
Also, Discord was willing to step in if the girls needed a safety net but as with his speech during the fight with Sombra, he wanted to prove they don't NEED his help. Not only that but he was sincerely remorseful over how badly his actions backfired, freed Starlight so that she could free the others, and stayed behind to help hold off the trio despite his lack of powers.
Does that make everything okay and for him to be easily forgiven? No. After all his actions did result in the Crystal Empire, Ponyville, and Canterlot getting enslaved by Sombra, the Elements and Tree of Harmony destroyed, and he indirectly caused the ponies to be divided, bring back the Windigos, and risk an Equestrian Ice Age due to not keeping a better eye on the Treacherous Trio, Mean 3, Legion of Doom, whatever they're called.
Of course,I like redemption and atonement stories over easily forgiven any day so I would like to see what else Discord would do to make up for his actions.
But you know what's funny? This reminds me of when I used to hate on certain episodes and characters. My friend didn't mind them and when I asked why he said he didn't blame the characters themselves.
This is me personally but I like to go with the classical headcanon that all Fictional Characters (including MLP) are just Animated Actors a la Who Framed Roger Rabbit, House of Mouse, Wreck-It Ralph, and similar works, who are just acting out what the show creators tell them to do. That way whenever there's an episode where the characters are doing something stupid, rude or any other O.O.C. way I just blame the people behind the show, not the characters. That sounded a little more polite in my head. But it helps me not hate the characters plus I like pretending to discuss with them how episodes could have been better.
Sorry for the rambling I got caught up in the moment. I'm just hoping this helps fanfic writers in general to be more inspired to not antagonize and/or bash characters and expressing ourselves in more positive ways. Granted you can't please everyone but I want fans to enjoy the good of our favorite fiction, not be consumed by the bad.
Interesting story so far. Added to my read list. Looking forward to seeing more.
so, this gonna continue soon?
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Yes
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Well the sad thing is he actually can: he only shows signs of fading when he stops being weird or messing with nature. But the biggest problem with the character is not that he messes with nature: Pinkie Pie both does the same thing and legitimately enjoys his own brand of messing with reality.
The biggest problem with the character is that he is a sadistic jerk who revels in ruining people's days even though we know he can be pleasant enough when he wants to be, and even act coherently on a social level (Discordant Harmony, What About Discord).
Even with this plan, he never thinks to try and cheer Twilight up in a more productive manner. Instead he thinks involving Twilight in yet another dangerous no holds brawl is the perfect solution to test her, because he has never been encouraged or expected to do things a different way, largely because the writers wanted a sarcastic, sadistic, and all around scummy individual to play the sociopath comedian on the show. And he's been that way since his debut.
The Return Of Harmony Part 1 has him building up and flattering Pinkie Pie, then subsequently screwing her over, despite the fact that at the time, she legitimately appreciated his work enough to advocate letting him wander free. If the character really just wanted to be free, the smart thing to do would've been to befriend her, but that never occurs to him, because at the end of the day the character just wants to see others suffer. We see this over and over again.
When he expresses disappointment that Cadence's day isn't ruined in "Three's A Crowd". When he's upset that the Plunder Vines failed to wreck Equestria in "Princess Twilight's Kingdom". When he comes up with a plan largely to screw with Twilight in "What About Discord". When he stalks Fluttershy, mistreats the Smooze, wrecks the Grand Galloping Gala and threatens to banish Tree Hugger to a inhospitable dimension out of spite. When his first reaction in Dungeons And Discord's, after being invited to Spike and Big Mac's "Guy's Night" by is to torment them for not being interested in the kinds of games he wanted to do instead of say simply leaving them to go do something else.
Discord is shown to be consistently interested in only one thing throughout the show "My Way Or The Highway" and he almost always expresses it in the most sadistic, destructive, manner he possibly can. "Because he is Discord" and because that is the only excuse the character needs. Even in episodes where he is more sympathetic, the character is usually still possessive, socially inept, reckless and lazy to a fault.
He shows little to no interest in growth, and even until the final he sees everyone (including his friends) as infer to him, despite his considerable number of screw-ups. The fact that he doesn't usually listen to those he considers his friends, and the fact that he is so bad at actually making them due to his general behavior isn't reassuring either, especially when you consider the mortal lifespan of those he "cares" about.
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I also have trouble believing the amoral manipulator discord and the rest of the hypocrites since for 8 seasons we get sugar-coated with love forgiveness and kindness and in the end where those need to be applied for real we get shit in the face.
The story is good keep it up m8.
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The road to hell is paved with good intentions what matters is what he did.