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Friendship is Card Games: Flutter Brutter · 10:13am Jun 5th, 2016

Let’s take a moment to consider what we know about the Mane Six’s families and when we learned about them.

Applejack’s family was firmly established in the series premiere. While her family tree’s sheer size means that that we’ll probably never know of every Apple, we knew about Granny Smith, Big Macintosh, and Apple Bloom within a minute or two of Applejack’s introduction.

Technically speaking, the same could be said of Rarity, though we only got a brief glimpse of Sweetie Belle and didn’t know she was Rarity’s sister until “The Stare Master.” Meanwhile, their parents weren’t introduced until “Sisterhooves Social.”

Twilight and Pinkie have very similar familial situations from the audience’s perspective. We first saw both sets of parents in “The Cutie Mark Chronicles,” along with two of Pinkie’s sisters. Each later had an older sibling emerge from the woodwork, Shining Armor in “A Canterlot Wedding” and Maud Pie in… well, “Maud Pie,” though she was foreshadowed in “Pinkie Pride.” Of course, Pinkie doesn’t have any nieces, certainly none that nearly killed thousands. Or so I assume.

We had no data on Rainbow Dash’s family until “Games Ponies Play,” and even then, it’s unclear whether that stallion is her father, uncle, cousin, or brother. Occam’s Razor says father, but there’s no concrete confirmation there. Scootaloo is Dash’s sister in a sense, but we’re focusing on established biological family, of which Scoots has a marked lack.

Until now, so did Fluttershy. In my experience, her fanonical family falls into two categories, as meek as her and markedly more assertive. This episode demonstrates that the reality is the former. Passivity is in Fluttershy’s blood, though not always expressed in the same way.

Kind of weird to have Dash talk about needing a place to relax the episode after she embraced the spa. I suppose it’s hard for her to relax fully when constantly worrying about her reputation in the back of her mind.

So, Fluttershy’s mother gardens? Huh. Talk about hydroponics.
More seriously, given the quantity of knickknacks around the Shy family household, it’s clear that it’s easy to get make most physical objects cloud-compatible (though that does raise the question of how clouds can get hard enough to break glass work.) Not sure if cloudwalking spells are similarly simple; Zephyr’s the one who implicitly proposed them, and it’s not like he’s going to concern himself with how much his expectations will inconvenience others.

Fluttershy and Rainbow Dash have clearly been close for a while. This doesn’t come as a surprise, but it’s always nice to get confirmation on fandom assumptions. (Though I will miss the aforementioned “ironically loud and confident Flutterparents” trope.)

I have to say, Fluttershy is magnificent from the moment Zephyr Breeze walks into the door. She is just so completely and totally done with his bullcrap. Not only does it demonstrate her character growth, especially in comparison to her parents, but it’s also a great way to establish that this has been a longstanding problem.

Pinkie confirmed for having access to Derpibooru. :raritywink:
… Wait, why would she have a billfold wallet? Have we ever seen ponies use paper currency?
Oh. Right. Pinkie Pie. Reality doesn't matter so long as the prop fits the gag. (cf. "Testing Testing 1-2-3")

I’m really not sure how to feel about the rest of the Mane Six already knowing about Zephyr. On the one hand, it would be unbelievable for both Shy and Dash to never mention him in all NaN years they’ve known their friends. (Especially Dash. You just know she’s griped about the unwelcome advances to anyone who will listen. Heck, Gilda probably proposed clawing him in the face.) On the other hand, it feels kind of lazy to just have the characters already know something the audience doesn’t. Still, at least it manages to feel better integrated than Shining Armor’s introduction. A low bar, but it clears it.

Poor Dinky. At least the fandom keeps her down to one, two mothers tops. The show drapes her around family trees like a liana.

I have to wonder if getting the Crusaders involved might have helped Zephyr. Yes, his issues were more a matter of confidence than anything, but he should have some sense of his purpose in life; that’s the point of a cutie mark. His is rather abstract, though; it seems to be a feather on a breeze. Call me overeager to see them in action, but they might have been able to give him some direction.

And, once again, Rainbow Dash abandons an uncomfortable situation, at least temporarily. Though that could be seen as demonstrating loyalty to Fluttershy by not decking her brother in the face. Lightning doesn't count; pegasi are clearly resistant to it. Still, I’m pretty sure she now prefers Discord to Zephyr Breeze.
… Actually, we haven’t seen Discord at all this season, have we? I know he was supposed to be the Jacob Marley analogue in “A Hearth’s Warming Tale,” but that was cut for time, so it doesn’t count.

Huh. Ponies confirmed to understand genetic inheritance. Very interesting.
Also, I really hope that that dye is edible.

I do have to love Fluttershy pulling the “exact words” gag on Zephyr. Retribution in kind!

Yeah, Zephyr definitely wouldn’t last the night in the Everfree. Frankly, I’m amazed he lasted until noon.

Nice to see more recognition of the Bearers’ deeds. Really, if anyone should acknowledge that, it’s their own families.

Dash seems as surprised as I was by the song. I know people have been unimpressed by it, but it actually kind of works for me. Zephyr Breeze is so unmotivated it takes a freaking musical number to light a fire under his rump. That’s actually kind of amusing.

I know I’m not the only one who saw the surprisingly sultry photo of Fluttershy. I’d love to know the story behind that.

Okay, given the sheer amount of hacking away Zephyr was doing to that bust, I have to think it can magically regrow hair. Otherwise, the only hairdo he’d be able to pull off would be a buzz cut.

Mr. and Mrs. Shy? Really? :facehoof: Punting with Twilight’s parents was bad enough, but Fluttershy’s name is one word.

Heh. Even other ponies ship Rainbow Dash.

In all, this was a greatly enjoyable episode. Fluttershy gets a great bit of progress in her character arc, becoming a motivational mentor for someone in similar straits. I have to admit that I empathize with Zephyr Breeze more than I’d like, but he definitely makes me look better in comparison. Plus, the moral is definitely one we can all take to heart.

On that note, here’s my latest effort:

Mane Therapy 1W
Instant
Kicker 2W (You may pay an additional 2W as you cast this spell.)
Prevent all damage that would be dealt to target creature this turn. If Mane Therapy was kicked, you may put an Aura card from your hand onto the battlefield attached to that creature.

“Can I Do It On My Own” U
Enchantment — Song
At the beginning of your upkeep, put a verse counter on “Can I Do It On My Own”.
Sacrifice “Can I Do It On My Own”: Activated abilities of permanents you control cost up to X less to activate this turn, where X is the number of verse counters on “Can I Do It On My Own”. This effect can’t reduce the amount of mana an ability costs to activate to less than one mana.

Spoiled Layabout 1U
Creature — Pegasus
Defender, flying
When Spoiled Layabout enters the battlefield, target opponent gains control of it.
At the beginning of your upkeep, detain target creature you control of Spoiled Layabout’s owner’s choice. (Until your next turn, that creature can’t attack or block and its activated abilities can’t be activated.)
1/4

Overlook 2U
Instant
Any number of target creatures you control phase out. (While they’re phased out, they’re treated as though they didn’t exist. They phase in before you untap during your next untap step.)
Starlight appreciated how her new friends gave her plenty of personal space.

Passive Enablers 3U
Creature — Pegasus Advisor
Flying
Activated abilities cost 1 less to activate. This effect can’t reduce the amount of mana an ability costs to activate to less than one mana.
”They taught me everything I know about encouragement and acceptance.”
—Fluttershy, Bearer of Kindness
2/2

Meditation Garden 3UU
Enchantment
2U: Draw three cards. You skip your next turn. Activate this ability only once each turn.
”Of course Zephyr wants one. It’s a place where you’re supposed to do nothing.”
—Fluttershy, Bearer of Kindness

Consumed by Doubt B
Enchantment — Aura
Enchant creature
Enchanted creature’s activated abilities cost an additional “Put a -1/-1 counter on this creature” to activate.
Fearing failure is the best way to guarantee it.

Swear Jar 2B
Sorcery
Target opponent loses 2 life and you gain 2 life.
Gotcha — Whenever an opponent curses, you may say “Gotcha!” If you do, return Swear Jar from your graveyard to your hand. (Casting a Curse spell doesn’t count.)
(This flavor text has been censored by Standards & Practices.)

Simper R
Instant
Counter target spell that targets a permanent you control unless that spell’s controller has Simper deal 4 damage to him or her.
Zephyr Breeze does everything in his power to keep ponies from taking harsh actions against him.

Motivating Jolt 1R
Instant
Motivating Jolt deals 1 damage to each creature. Untap each creature dealt damage this way.
”Nothing gets you going like a spark on the flank.”
—Rainbow Dash, Bearer of Loyalty

Mounting Frustration 1R
Enchantment
Mounting Frustration can’t be countered.
Whenever a spell you’ve cast is countered, Mounting Frustration deals 2 damage to target creature or player.
When nothing’s working, wreck what did.

Overbearing Advance 1R
Instant
Target attacking creature gains trample until end of turn. Destroy each creature with defender blocking that creature.
Zephyr Breeze entered his parent’s home the same way armies enter enemy cities.

Peeve 2R
Instant
You may sacrifice a Mountain rather than pay Peeve’s mana cost.
Target creature gets +3/+1 and gains trample until end of turn.
”I’m just the teensiest bit upset.”
—Fluttershy, Bearer of Kindness

Draconic Taskmaster 3R
Creature — Dragon
Battle cry (Whenever this creature attacks, each other attacking creature gets +1/+0 until end of turn.)
If Draconic Taskmaster attacks, all creatures you control attack if able.
If you’re not running in the same direction as a charging dragon, you’d better have a good reason.
3/3

Random Pick 1G
Sorcery
Name a permanent card, then reveal the top card of your library. If it’s the named card, put it onto the battlefield. Otherwise, put it into your graveyard and return Random Pick to its owner’s hand.
”When in doubt, guess everything.”
—Pinkie Pie, Bearer of Laughter

Dye-Spattered Menagerie 2G
Creature — Beast
Dye-Spattered Menagerie’s power and toughness are each equal to the number of permanents on the battlefield that share a color with it.
U: Dye-Spattered Menagerie becomes the color of your choice until end of turn.
Rarity found herself grateful that neither she nor Fluttershy ever got the other’s cutie mark.
*/*

Critter Gnomes 4
Artifact Creature — Beast Gnome
T: Target creature becomes a Gnome artifact in addition to its other card types and creature types until end of turn.
2: Target Gnome creature gets +1/+1 until end of turn.
Just about anything in a pointy, ceramic hat counts as a gnome in Equestria.
2/2

Mutual Support 1(gw)
Instant
Until end of turn, creature you control get “T: Regenerate another target creature you control.”
Herd structure still underlies Equestrian society, its citizens banding together to protect those in need.

Cloud Collection 2(gu)
Enchantment
Landfall — Whenever a land enters the battlefield under your control, put a charge counter on Cloud Collection.
Remove a charge counter from Cloud Collection: Add C to your mana pool.
Sentimentality and utility aren’t mutually exclusive.

Hero of Hayrule 2RW
Creature — Pony Warrior
Heroic — Whenever you cast a spell that targets Hero of Hayrule, put a +1/+1 counter on Hero of Hayrule and destroy up to one target artifact.
You can't save a kingdom without breaking a few pots.
2/2

Lay Down the Law 2RW
Sorcery
Cast Lay Down the Law only during your precombat main phase.
At end of combat this turn, destroy each creature that didn’t attack or block this turn.
Fluttershy’s ultimatum was clear: Do something or leave.

Comments ( 41 )

Starlight appreciated how her new friends gave her plenty of personal space.

Yeah, my "Twilight is sending her off on friendship field assignments" headcanon isn't going to hold up much longer! :rainbowwild:

I have to admit that I empathize with Zephyr Breeze more than I’d like, but he definitely makes me look better in comparison.

I cannot empathize with him at all, I'm afraid: I found him barely tolerable. Also, it was quite amusing that I clearly am not alone, as his fellow ponies could barely put up with him either, including his own sister.

As you said, Fluttershy was awesome here; she was just not taking any of his shit at all.

Indeed, it was because of Fluttershy that this episode was so awesome; note also the contrast with last weeks episode. Last week, we met the Amazing Applejack, juggler of a dozen idiot balls, this week, we had the one of Fluttershy's best showings in the show.

Last week, a main character got warped by the writers to fit around the desired asop. Compare with how the characters were handled this week. It's an amazing difference.

Here's hoping for more of the same from Fluttershy, though I shan't be crying into my tea if this is the last we see of her brother.

I completely missed the Link pony. I wonder how many pots he destroyed to get that many rupees?

No Triforce cutie mark, but a partially completed heart container works too.

How did they get away with Link pone. :derpyderp2:

Of course, Pinkie doesn’t have any nieces, certainly none that nearly killed thousands. Or so I assume.

I imagine that Maud's foals would be a force to be reckoned with if/when she has them.

I have to wonder if getting the Crusaders involved might have helped Zephyr. Yes, his issues were more a matter of confidence than anything, but he should have some sense of his purpose in life; that’s the point of a cutie mark. His is rather abstract, though; it seems to be a feather on a breeze. Call me overeager to see them in action, but they might have been able to give him some direction.

I thought of that too, while I was watching. It would've been hilarious if they'd come in to save the day at the last minute, only to learn that Fluttershy and Dash already helped Man-bun resolve his cutie mark crisis.

Mr. and Mrs. Shy? Really?

I know, right? I'm sorry, but I refuse to call them that. To quote Adam Savage, "I reject your reality and substitute my own!"

So, um, a few of your cards refer to some OC called Zephyr Heart. I thought this was a post about the episode.

Maybe Dinky's parents are lesbians?

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:derpyderp2: Wow. My only explanation is that I conflated Zephyr and Flurry Heart into one horrible, unthinking force of destruction. This terror has been eradicated thanks to your vigilance.

3999805 I would say that's Buttons father, but I never saw any of those episodes on youtube/saw them together.....

I loved Flutters in this episode. Her expressions alone where amazing.
Yes I noticed the painting, and I want it. If clouds can hold brick and mortar buildings, break glass, etc. Then whats the point to a cloud walking spell?
I despised her brother the moment I saw him. I hope we never see him again. The CMC didnt come to mind right away, but I kept thinking "he has a cutie mark, whats his f'ing problem?"
Overall I would say this is one of the best episodes. Different then much of what they have done before.
Also seems Discord's only appearance will relegated to the opening sequence.

edit: Also his cutie mark is not a representation of his special talent but his personality. Much like his name. A leaf (or a feather in this case) on a breeze. A transient or a freeloading bum. They never once mentioned his special talent, only that he could do anything.

(Though I will miss the aforementioned “ironically loud and confident Flutterparents” trope.)

I'm also sad at how the established parents are going to hinder the creativity of the fandom.

Pinkie confirmed for having access to Derpibooru. :raritywink:
… Wait, why would she have a billfold wallet? Have we ever seen ponies use paper currency?
Oh. Right. Pinkie Pie. Reality doesn't matter so long as the prop fits the gag. (cf. "Testing Testing 1-2-3")

Wait, what? :applejackconfused:

Poor Dinky. At least the fandom keeps her down to one, two mothers tops. The show drapes her around family trees like a liana.

:rainbowlaugh: Head-canon, Derpy is too busy making ends meat a lot of the time or Dinky it's a special needs kid, so she needs various ponies to watch out for her.

I have to wonder if getting the Crusaders involved might have helped Zephyr. Yes, his issues were more a matter of confidence than anything, but he should have some sense of his purpose in life; that’s the point of a cutie mark. His is rather abstract, though; it seems to be a feather on a breeze. Call me overeager to see them in action, but they might have been able to give him some direction

I was also surprised they didn't get involved, but at this point I'm pretty sure that Zephyr will become a recurring character, I don't like the idea yet, but his character is too well suited for the MLP narrative style, not only he provides a new type of stereotypical character to use (the good for nothing freeloader) but he also has a lot of room for character growth so as to have the jerk we saw in the episode slowly turn into a better pony episode after episode one lesson at the time.

I can almost guaranty that he will be interacting with the crusades at some point, his story is clearly not over yet judging by the ending of the episode.

Huh. Ponies confirmed to understand genetic inheritance. Very interesting.

can you tell me which line you are talking about? :twilightblush:

I know I’m not the only one who saw the surprisingly sultry photo of Fluttershy. I’d love to know the story behind that.

What photo? WHAT PHOTO? SHOW ME THE PHOTO XD:pinkiecrazy:

Heh. Even other ponies ship Rainbow Dash.

Zephyr's ego doesn't count.

I have to admit that I empathize with Zephyr Breeze more than I’d like,

Of course you do, first the episode establishes the character as an A-hole and then it puts that same A-hole in a situation where he becomes relatable by showcasing him through a perspective that many people can easily empathize with, it's something that is completely counter intuitive in the short run, that's why I believe the writers are actually looking to keep him for the long term.

~Leonzilla

The artists like trolling the people who try to pin down who Dinky's mother is, don't they? Either she's a foster child who bounces from home to home or Ponyville has suffered a population explosion of lilac unicorn fillies with two-tone yellow mans and golden eyes.

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Here's hoping for more of the same from Fluttershy, though I shan't be crying into my tea if this is the last we see of her brother.

I'm pretty sure we will be seen more of her brother, but I doubt it will be like this episode. Considering how the show tends to work on character growth and constructive lessons their relationship is bound to improve, although Zephyr core personality might remain insufferable if enough people somehow find that enjoyable. I personally would rather see him learning to act like a better pony than to see everypony around him showing him what he deserves.

Last week, a main character got warped by the writers to fit around the desired asop.

I don't think this is fair, I felt Applejacks silliness was justified and a perfectly good way to showcase how easily is to get wrapped around the way you do things without improving. It's something that it's extremely common in so many fields yet once people are made aware of themselves it's only natural to feel silly for not realizing things sooner.

Nice work with the hybrid mana cards.

I also really enjoy it when you dust off the older mechanics.

I'm also glad that Zephyr wasn't entirely, irredeemably as bad as he could have been. ...But he was getting close.

Rainbow's reactions to him were the best. It probably took everything she had to keep from slugging him. I wonder if she was worse when they were younger.

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I'm also glad that Zephyr wasn't entirely, irredeemably as bad as he could have been. ...But he was getting close.

I think MLP as a whole fights to show through storytelling the ideal that no type of character is inherently irredeemable.

Zephyr probably had many more problems that the show would have showed if the episode had more time tho.

~Leonzilla

It struck me earlier that with this episode, we can now have "Fluttershy introduces Discord to her parents" fics with canon characters :rainbowderp:

More seriously, given the quantity of knickknacks around the Shy family household, it’s clear that it’s easy to get make most physical objects cloud-compatible (though that does raise the question of how clouds can get hard enough to break glass work.) Not sure if cloudwalking spells are similarly simple;

I think I talked about this once with someone in a comment thread somewhere, but I can't for the life of me remember who or where. But the gist of it was, with all the strangeness that we've seen, I think that the ability for clouds to support things other than pegasi is less to do with mass-enchanting with cloud-walker spells than it is to do with the clouds themselves. Yes, pegasus magic allows for easy weather manipulation, and they can walk on clouds by default while other ponies can't. However, the show makes a distinction between wild weather (which pegasi presumably first gained this ability for) and Equestrian weather (which we know is artificial).

Artificial clouds are shown to behave differently. They don't play up when pegasi try to control them (or even when a unicorn like Rarity tries to control them), they're far less dangerous, and they can also be used for building materials, which we've never seen done with wild weather to my knowledge. I think it's not a stretch to assume that they may also be far denser somehow, or made of something more than just water. After all, in Wonderbolts Academy, when Dash saw her friends falling, her first thought was to get a bunch of clouds and compress them. Clearly, pegasus magic or cloud-walking spells aren't a requirement for a cloud to hold unusual weight. It just helps, because most clouds aren't built like that. But if they can be, then it only makes sense to build cloud houses that way.

Just a theory.

… Actually, we haven’t seen Discord at all this season, have we? I know he was supposed to be the Jacob Marley analogue in “A Hearth’s Warming Tale,” but that was cut for time, so it doesn’t count.

Wait, he was what now? I need a source for this immediately.

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"Um, Twilight?"
"Yes, Starlight?"
"Do you think my next friendship assignment could be, you know, in this universe?"
"Hmm... Well, let's check the Map."
(Harsh, angry glare fills the throne room.)
"Nope! Looks like somepony still has some more timelines to clean up."
"Aww..."

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He was only visible for a few seconds at most. I missed him too at first; didn't realize he was there until Derpibooru pointed him out.

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I imagine that Maud's foals would be a force to be reckoned with if/when she has them.

Maud will not birth her children. She will sculpt them.

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... That actually makes a disturbing amount of sense.

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Don't underestimate the fandom. The phase space of Flutterparents may have narrowed, but there's still a wide area to explore. After all, Fluttershy had to have gotten her temper from somewhere, especially since Zephyr has a similarly volatile one.

Wait, what? :applejackconfused:

Pinkie busting out a wallet full of photos. A wallet designed for paper money, which I'm pretty sure we've never seen ponies use.

I can almost guaranty that he will be interacting with the crusades at some point, his story is clearly not over yet judging by the ending of the episode.

And even if he doesn't, we can still write it.

can you tell me which line you are talking about? :twilightblush:

"Turns out the animal communication thing isn't genetic." Pretty explicit.

What photo? WHAT PHOTO? SHOW ME THE PHOTO XD:pinkiecrazy:

This one.

Zephyr's ego doesn't count.

No, but his parents talking about how Dash has been pining after him does.

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:derpyderp1: "I told you to stop playing Peek-a-Boo with Pumpkin Cake if she's going make a clone of you every time you cover your eyes."

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It's always fun to dip into the deep pool of Magic mechanics.

As for Zephyr and Dash, I suspect she's been putting up with him ever since he decided fillies didn't have cooties. At this point, she's just resigned to it.

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Someone definitely needs to write that story. I may need to write that story.

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Hmm. The thing is, we have seen that non-pegasi can't support themselves on structural cloud. Rarity had to sit in the balloon basket after her Icarus impression in "Sonic Rainboom," and Spike fell through the moment he stepped off the tarmac in "The Cutie Re-Mark." And yet that compressed cloud cushion in "Wonderbolts Academy" does imply that the stuff can support them at higher densities... unless that was a form of actively applied pegasus magic.

Still, your hypothesis is much simpler, so I have to favor it. Clearly, there's some sort of interference effect caused by living creatures. Or at least highly magical ones, like ponies and dragons.

Also, source on Marleycord.

Mr. and Mrs. Shy? Really?

My interpretation of that is more along the lines of saying "Mr. and Mrs. Fluttershy's parents" which is very much something Rainbow Dash would say.
Admittedly I'm of the head cannon that ponies in general don't have last names officially, just some earth pony families have naming traditions, because the only ones that have common second names are the Pie, Cake, and Rich families. Hell the Apples which seem to have the most family oriented mindset on the show so far don't all have last names, just a common naming theme.

4000705 Thank you for explaining all that! :scootangel:

Don't underestimate the fandom. The phase space of Flutterparents may have narrowed, but there's still a wide area to explore. After all, Fluttershy had to have gotten her temper from somewhere, especially since Zephyr has a similarly volatile one.

Oh I'm sure there still must be an infinite amount of ways to use them, prompts to deploy, and main ideas to showcase. I just know it's a much much smaller infinity than we used to have when the parents were still undefined.

No, but his parents talking about how Dash has been pining after him does.

...I think I must have lapsed during that part, :twilightsheepish:

I can't even find it. :twilightoops:

~Leonzilla

4000705 heh, if you REALLY wanted to go weird think HIE with Link and Zelda(of the non sister variety) getting trapped in equis as companion's of the Dr, who now have to settle down as Half Hearted and Love Tap (assuming I'm getting the names right).

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A cloud street is just there for pegasi to walk on, not for pegasi to place all their furniture on. I'd think they wouldn't bother with the dense building cloud for wide-open public places, hence why Rarity and others fell through.

Edit: Also, thank you for the source. Damn it, I really miss Discord this season.

Oh dear, you're slipping old bean, for Mane Therapy the proper reminder text for Kicker would be "(You may pay an additional 2W as you cast this spell.)"
Not sure if I've missed that on any previous cards you've done with Kicker or not. This time I started reading it and it just dinged in my brain that it didn't sound right... .

So for Spoiled Layabout I went and looked at the twelve "detain" cards we have and every single one of of them can only (normally, because giving things without Flash Flash is a thing) be cast on your own turn, which is what I thought. But, funly enough, the current reminder text still works. Since the detaining was always a full circle around the table it doesn't have to be changed at all.

Oh, Overlook reminded me I wanted to make a Commander deck around Phasing just to be "that guy". I also want to make a Sun Quan Horsemanship deck for the same reason.
But even I'm not crazy enough slash enough of a jerk to make a Banding deck. Just because I actually understand the rules of it doesn't mean I should force it upon other people, that's just a level of un-funness that's likely to get me banned from my local gaming store.

It is still possible that you can skip two, or more, turns in a row with Meditation Garden. Because you can activate it on your opponent's turn you'd then skip two turns in a row. If you had some means of gaining unbound mana you could theoretically never have another turn again! Though you'd still need some kind of win condition, but I'm sure there are plenty of choices.
Also, why is it only three cards when actual Meditate is four? I think the initial investment of the Enchantment and having all of the same costs around (even the timing of Instant is the same! Kinda.) I think keeping it at four is just fine.

That reminder text for Swear Jar, and that flavor text as well. Both are just priceless.

Umm, did you mean for Motivating Jolt to hit all creatures? For R at Instant? I only found one card that dealt 1 damage to each creature (and player) for a single Red, and that on a coin flip at Sorcery speed. There is an instant, well two of them. The first costs so much because of the "attacks this turn if able" clause and the second costs 3R to hit each of your opponents creatures. Then a lot of other such effects cost 1R (or 2R or 1B) and all of them are Sorcery speed. And most of them hit players as well.
Dealing even just 1 damage to all creatures is a very powerful effect, because it totally shuts down most token strategies, especially if you can pull it at Instant speed. And this is not even factoring in the untap effect, which Red does often enough so that's not a problem.
Really, if it was just "Motivating Jolt deals 1 damage to target creature, untap that creature." I'd have no problem with it but as it is right now it's just waaaaaaaay too powerful.

I'm fine with Simper being a counter-spell in Red with the "or take damage" rider on it, Red does that. However I don't think the card should be at the same mana efficiency as it is in Blue. It'd say bump it up to 1R.

Wow, Overbearing Advance is powerful. not in that "Geeze FoME what were you thinking?" sort of powerful but in that right area of powerful that it won't normally do much more than give you a few extra bits of damage from the trample but it has the potential to hit really hard if people aren't playing around it.

I didn't know that Spike, Draconic Taskmaster, was part Viashino.

Did you intend to limit Dye-Spattered Menagerie to only one color at a time? Most of these abilities say "color or colors of your choice". I can understand it being only limited to one though.
Maybe up the cost to 1U and phrase it "Dye-Spattered Menagerie becomes the color of your choice in addition to its other colors until end of turn.", not sure if that's too cheep or if it should be a second ability, running a bit low on rules text space to make it two different abilities though.

Well, Critter Gnomes made me aware that "Gnome" is indeed a valid creature-type, been a while since I've seen an updated Bottle Gnomes (Refreshing! Sorry, in-joke) I guess.
Also, it seems that we don't currently have any cards that change both card type and creature type. Plenty of stuff that changes color and (one of the) type(s) and a bunch of stuff that makes things Artifacts "in addition of their other types" but nothing that fiddles with both at once.
The phrasing seems a bit off to me, since "artifact" is not a sub-type and all it kinda reads that it is making things "Gnome artifacts", along the lines of Assembly-Workers, and yes I know there is no hyphen there but that won't matter to some people. I think to clear up any chance for confusion it should probably be more along the lines of "Target creature becomes an artifact Gnome in addition to its other card types and creature types until end of turn." and you might even be able to get away with "Target creature becomes an artifact Gnome in addition to its other types until end of turn." since both the card types and creature types use the "other types" vernacular I do not see why they would be mutually exclusive from one another.

Cloud Collection is kinda stretching hybrid a bit, since this is a purely Green thing that is only Blue because of the connection to clouds. Though, it's not any more powerful than an Artifact and the rule on those is along the lines of "a normally colored ability for use in any color at about three times the price" so I think it should still be fine.
Still a bit of a stretch though.

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I prefer "Brave Heart" for Link pony, even if it does make him sound like he should be voiced by Mel Gibson.

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But then how are pegasi supposed to grab free used furniture?
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Oh goodness, that actually sounds hazardous. Every time somepony in Cloudsdale buys a new sofa, something beneath it gets crushed.

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Mane Therapy: Argh. Fix made.

Spoiled Layabout: Remember, the "your" in the reminder text applies to the Layabout's controller, not its owner. Technically speaking, it still follows the convention.

Meditation Garden: The thing is, you spend a card by casting Meditate. The same can't be said with the Garden. Also, I kept it down to once per turn to lessen the memory issues. ("Hang on, how many of your turns do we skip?")

Motivating Jolt: You do make a good point (though overloading Electrickery costs half of what you claim it does. Important distinction.) I'll add a mana to Jolt's cost.

Dye-Spattered Menagerie functions exactly as I intended it.

Critter Gnomes: Subtypes always precede card types, and "artifact" both is an established card type and isn't capitalized. Also, I based part of the templating on Darksteel Mutation.

Cloud Collection: Actually, blue does get some mana production. It's just that the mana it makes is colorless, use-limited, or both. That's why the least creature-oriented color got so many Eldrazi Scion generators in Battle for Zendikar Block.

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I bet there's a thriving recycling centre located directly below the city.

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There probably would be if it didn't move on a frequent basis. (cf. "Tanks for the Memories.") Unless the recycling center is actually in the center of Cloudsdale's circuit around Equestria.

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Cloudsdale can't always be mobile, though. After all, it appears on a map. That must be its default location.

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I blame the one AM for being wrong about Electrickery's cost on Overload, but 1RR is not quite half of 3R either. ^_^
And, again, didn't watch the episode but I can take a guess from context of what I do know about it to assume that Dash zapped Zephyr Breeze with a cloud to get his flanks moving. So why does that translate into zapping everyone to get them moving and not just zapping one person?

That is exactly what I was saying about Spoiled Layabout, that the wording worked without needing to be changed.

Fair enough about Meditation Garden not 'costing' the card and thus only drawing three. I still like the fact that you could just spend the rest of the game meditating though and never really do anything else again with the right set up.

"Uh, are you going to take a turn?"
"I am one with the earth."
"That's, ah, that's great and all but we're kinda having an epic battle of magic here."
"I am one with the air."
"We were having an epic battle of magic... . I guess I end this turn and start my next one."
"At the start of your turn I become one with the water though my connection with [insert preferred theoretically-unbound-but-still-finite source of mana here], and my dragonic spirit guide deals three damage to you because you do not understand the truth that is the nothingness that comes from being one with the universe."

I must have missed Darksteel Mutation in my search on Critter Gnomes and I am not sure how, because it is just the sort of card I was looking for.

As a predominately Blue player I am ashamed of myself for forgetting that, often times limited in some way, mana production is, indeed, part of Blue's color pie. I guess I've milled a bit too much of my own mind seeking... uhh, what were we talking about again?

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...I think I must have lapsed during that part, :twilightsheepish:

I can't even find it. :twilightoops:

It's at the end, when Fluttershy's parents are talking to Rainbow Dash. It's her mom that mentions it.

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I believe you meant to reply to 4000758.

Leon, you have a message immediately below this one.

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4005952
Oh, I see, thank you, my unfamiliarity with the word "pining" was the reason I missed that.

~Leonzilla

Swear Jar combos well with Endless Cockroaches:

"I attack with both creatures. Are you blocking?"

"Yes. The Living Wall to that one, and the Serra Angel to that one."

"I'm sorry, I didn't quite catch that. Which card is the Angel blocking?"

"… that one."

"I'm nearsighted, you'll have to say the card's name."

"The roaches!"

"The what roaches?"

I also felt like Zephyr needed a punch in the face. But once his reason for the lack of motivation became apparent, I did notice half a parallel between myself and him.

He didn't want to try at anything for fear of failure.

I don't try to do things for fear of annoying/disappointing people. It's not that their opinion has a huge impact on me. I know who I am, and have full confidence in that assessment. I just don't like it when people aren't happy. Especially when it's because of me. So I hide to keep potential confrontations from becoming a possibility. I worry about helping people without them asking because I fear I might damage their pride by not treating them as independent people.

So full of confidence. So lacking in self-esteem...

EDIT: Wow, I got so off on a tangent, I forgot to mention one of the ideas I had:
During the night Zephyr was staying at Fluttershy's, Discord stops by for a visit. They get along like Starscream and Megatron.

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"The only roaches that are in play."

"Which are?"

"Judge!"

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Speaking personally, I just cross my fingers as I throw out ideas and hope I please more people than I annoy. It's seemed to work out thus far. Also, as per Derpy Hooves being my spirit animal, I have often unironically said "Anything I can do to help?" and variations thereof.

During the night Zephyr was staying at Fluttershy's, Discord stops by for a visit. They get along like Starscream and Megatron.

"Discord has a sore throat! Guess that makes me the new spirit of chaos."

Hmm, couldn't spoiled layabout detain itself?

Edit: Wait, owner, not controller nevermind.

4008338 I just want you to know that however hard you feel it is to actually do stuff in life, you're still better than my little brother.

His story is long, but it inspired my take on Zephyr Breeze: RIP HIS HEAD FROM HIS NECK AND OFFER THE FLOWING BLOOD TO THE GODS! BLOOD FOR THE LITTLE-BROTHER BLOOD GOD! LITTLE-BROTHER SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!

For some ungodly reason I first read Consumed by Doubt as consumed by ducks. I was very confused.

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Understandably. Though it does make for an interesting creepypasta story idea: A fed-up Fluttershy sics the entire animal kingdom on Zephyr. The ducks are only the beginning. :flutterrage:

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