I Freaking HATE Wallflower Blush · 6:45pm Apr 3rd, 2018
I didn't think it was possible. But there is actually a character I hate more than Starlight Glimmer.
"Forgotten Friendship" is an....okay movie. It's not without its flaws, but not so bad that it stopped me from enjoying it, it has an interesting concept, and I genuinely felt that the stakes were high for Sunset.
That said.....Wallflower Blush. HOLY CRAP, Wallflower Blush!
First off, it was pretty obvious that she was the villain. They didn't even try to hide it. At least in "Legends of Everfree" they had Timber Spruce to sort of cast suspicion on.
Second, she's BORING! I get that that's the point, that she's nondescript and forgettable, but just because something is intentional doesn't make it good! Oh, and her song was shit, too.
And lastly, there's her whole motivation. She essentially MIND-RAPED Sunset's friends AND the entire school, and set out to make Sunset's life hell.....because everyone forgot her.
Now as I've mentioned with Starlight I can, for the most part, forgive pettiness and shit motivations when it comes to villains. Most villains don't need a reason, only an excuse. Hell, one of the greatest animated villains of all time CURSED AN INFANT because she didn't get invited to a birthday party!
HOWEVER.....
In Starlight's case, she was motivated by forces beyond her control. Her friend got his Cutie Mark first and he moved away. Sometimes things like that happen. And like a toddler who got its toys taken away, she threw a mad fit and took it out on everypony else.
Wallflower, though? She clearly states near the end of the film that she'd been using the Memory Stone to erase everyone's memory of her before the start of the movie. Meaning she has NO ONE TO BLAME BUT HERSELF FOR HER PROBLEMS!
And I know what you're about to say, "Oh, she was lonely BEFORE she found the Stone!" Well, if she wanted people to stop forgetting about her, she should have realized that erasing people's memories of her would make the problem WORSE!
So not only is she a shit character, she's an IDIOTIC one to boot!
And once again, another villain gets off scot-free. No punishment, no one calling her out on her bullshit, nothing.
So....yeah. I don't like Wallflower.
hattafan out.
She didn't use the stone to erase herself she erased minor interactions that didn't go well and even if she caused her situation that doesn't make her any less sympathetic since she was clearly suffering because of it.
Yeah. Minor interactions with people who, if she truly was invisible to everyone BEFORE she found the Stone, either didn't know her or didn't remember her very well. So, yeah, essentially erasing herself from their memory.
And again, MIND RAPE. Scot-free. No punishment.
You're free to feel sorry for her if you like. She ain't getting any sympathy from me.
I hate her too, and I also hate Forgotten Friendship
Charitably, Wallflower Blush has a semi-Power Incontinent psionic Talent which is essentially the same as The Shadow's -- she can cloud the minds of other people so that they don't notice her. IMO Pony Fluttershy, and possibly Humanoid Fluttershy, have the same talent. That's why the Memory Stone resonated and bonded with her. And yes, I think that Fluttershy might have also been able to attune the Stone to herself.
This still doesn't excuse the use Wallflower made of her talent and artifact, and still less does it excuse her inability to make logical connections and realize what she was doing. It was Mind Raping, because she knew she was doing it, and was doing it non-consensually.
The main reason I think this was a talent rather than simply an artifact is that Wallflower Blush was clearly being overlooked by everyone before she found the Stone.
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Or it was just shitty writing, and we all know THAT can't be it!
She found the stone during or after the Friendship Games, but this has been going on since 3rd grade continuously. We also don’t see her use the stone in the Yearbook room, but Sunset still ignores her at first and shuts her in the room and turns the lights off after Wallflower says she’s in there. It wasn’t a self created problem at all, at worst she made things slightly worse. Plus, the big memory wipe was an impulse decision, she got snubbed twice by Sunset in one encounter where everyone was talking about how awful she used to be (and Sunset was acting the same towards Wallflower as always). Most importantly though, that was the reasoning, it was never treated as her being in the right, the entire thing was shown to be very bad.
As for mind rape, that’s extremely common in MLP. Discord, Chrysalis, Sombra, Twilight, the CMC, Spike (on accident), demon Sunset, the Sirens, and reformed Starlight (villain Starlight preferred to forcefully imprison people and use psychological torture and propaganda). As for EqG villains, we have ones that forcibly imprison people with no intent of letting them go (with potential murder on Juniper’s part) as well. Wallflower didn’t go beyond the average villain and she followed the pattern of finding power and slowly getting corrupted/escalating, just without a transformation.
I pretty much agree with you on Wallflower. Her problems were mostly her own fault, she did bad, and she got off far too light for it.
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She’s had the problem since third grade and found the memory stone during or after FG. We see her try to talk to people (and not use the memory stone as we saw when Sunset read her mind) and she still gets snubbed. She doesn’t try to hide away, people forget her when she’s directly talking to them. I don’t see how it’s a self inflicted problem, at most she made it slightly worse.
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I'm not arguing that other people failed to connect with her. I'm simply arguing that her method of dealing with the problem just made things worse, as you said.
*raises glass in cheers*
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We also didn't see her erase everyone else's memories either. But we know for a fact that she did. She straight up said that she used the stone to erase awkward introductions. For all we know, she erased that memory while they weren't looking, and we saw the aftermath, with them forgetting Wallflower was even in the room.
Yeah, because that makes it SO much better!
You're missing the point! This is not about right or wrong! It's the fact that we're supposed to feel sorry for her when Wallflower chose to blame Sunset for something she had nothing to do with! It is not Sunset's fault that Wallflower is so bland that no one remembers her, and it certainly isn't her fault that she actively decided to make the problem worse for herself by erasing everyone's memories of her! She lost any right to sympathy she might have had when she chose to erase people's minds with their consent, and then still complain that she's not noticed!
Yeah. And you know what all those villains have in common? THEY'RE NOT BORING AS SHIT!!!!
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It’s not other people failed to connect with her, people repeatedly forgot she existed, to the point where it wasn’t normal. We’re talking Trouble Shoes levels here. There’s plenty of reasons to not like Wallflower (she can be boring, she was spiteful towards someone who didn’t do anything to her, she got off for free like Juniper and Starlight). What bugs me is when people say it’s a self inflicted problem when it’s been going on for over six years and it’s not like she tries to hide or acts antisocial, just because she wiped a few awkward encounters (and not all, as we saw with the Sunset memory read) for at most a few months. Sure wiping memories wasn’t smart, but it wasn’t treated as smart either.
She was given a motive and was always painted as in the wrong. She got off easy, but it was also one act that was cleanly resolved (and not a long time of abuse like Sunset and Starlight, and not a repeat villain like most) and most villains get off easy if they’re sorry. It’s nothing different than normal for this series.
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We’re supposed to feel sorry for her? That’s not the impression I got, just the reasoning behind her actions. Plus, plenty of villains have no motivation or extremely shaky motives. You’re also asserting she erased most interactions when she said she only did little ones and we see in the memory read she didn’t erase the yearbook room encounter.
First off, half aren’t villains. Twilight has two accidental mind rapes (Flutterbat and Magical
Mystery Cure) and has one intentional on ponies and two on large amounts of animals. Reformed Starlight uses non consensual magic in almost every episode, including mind control and a forced speaking spell (not to mention the anger leak). The CMC literally drugged Big Mac with a mind altering love drug, intentionally (and only had issues that it was too potent). Most of these instances had at worst a mild chastising. And so what if the villains are more interesting? Many still got off super easy (especially the non villain ones) as long as they were sorry. Being interesting doesn’t make it more morally ok or sympathetic, especially when there’s no motivation beyond evil.
Seriously, there are plenty of reasons not to like Wallflower. She’s can be boring, she had a misaimed grudge, she got off easy, and so on. However, these aren’t unusual for the show. Mind rape is normal (including for non villains). Getting off easy is extremely normal. No/weak motivation is normal.
I honestly don't blame you! It gives me an idea about a story you can do! A male reader insert about the character LOATHING Wallflower!
Amen to that!
All that because no one knew who she was?! And she blamed Sunset under the premonitions that she hadn't changed?! The girls should've pummelled her when given the chance!