Correcting Ignorance (TVTROPES) THE END OF ENDS · 11:49pm Aug 20th, 2018
Since it's been discovered that most of my haters are responsible for those ridiculous TV TROPES. Even thought they're all hopeless mental cases, some of you have a chance to learn the truth. So I'm going weed out the lists, and only put in the false and ridiuclous notions to counter them and reveal just how mentally unfit these bungler haters of mine are.
THE END OF ENDS
(Even though this only focuses on the YOUTUBE version, I'm going to dub into every version there was, since it's ALL there)
FANFIC
An Ice Person: [Kamica
Kamica's Element isn't ice, and never HAS been in any of her appearances. She's a swords mistress with a sword that and shoot PLASMA ENERGY BLASTS. If she was an Ice element it would SAY so.
Chekhov's Skill: Subverted. You'd think Beast Boy's Magic Voices might be the reason for why he sounds so different as Count Logan, but it's revealed that the mask simply disguised his voice.
The Magic Voice only works when he SINGS, and ORIGINALLY it was his mask that disguised his voice, but that is no longer needed seeing as BB/Logan is an adult and his voice would be much deeper, and more eerie.
Dark and Troubled Past: Beast Boy explains his past to Terra to justify just why he felt depressed after she dumped him. Subverted in that he exaggerates it to the point that he's convinced nobody, not even the Doom Patrol or other Titans, likes him or ever treated him well. Later, it's used to justify his destruction of the universes.
It's not exaggerated, I truly studied up on BB's past, he really has had a tough life full of rejection, alienation, people underestimating him. It doesn't matter to me if he's scripted as able to move on so easily in the show, in real life... that would drive anybody mad.
Driven to Suicide: Count Logan's plan is essentially to destroy all the universes and himself. Why? Because he got dumped and thinks nobody likes him due to perceived insults from everybody and decided that if he can't be happy, no one can.
The real reason is because Logan felt too ashamed and too upset with himself for what he had done to really carry, plus (Only slightly as the above said) he felt he had nothing left to live for. Frankly I can't blame him.
Entitled to Have You: Beast Boy seems to think that his sad past and hard work as a hero are why he should have Terra.
Actually, I feel that after everything BB has suffered through, the last thing he deserved was to be coldly dumped, rejected, underestimated, ect, ect...
It relates to Bruce Willis in LIVE FREE DIE HARD II:
"You know what you get for being a hero? Nothin'. You get shot at. You get a little pat on the back, blah, blah, blah, attaboy. You get divorced. Your wife can't remember your last name. Your kids don't want to talk to you. You get to eat a lot of meals by yourself. Trust me, kid, nobody wants to be that guy."
He's right. I cannot stand it when a hero works so hard, makes so many sacrifices and all that, and in the end gets horrible punished and deprived for it, and that is what I do with Beast Boy.
I'm not saying a hero should be praised like a God and people should kiss his ass. I'm saying, aren't they entitled to some dignity? Shouldn't they GAIN just a little for all their troubles instead of losing?
Expy: Because of the Whole Plot Reference to Super Paper Mario, the villains are expies of the villains of that game.
Not quite... the only two villians actually dubbed are
Count Bleck/Lord Blumiere ----> Beast Boy/ Count Logan
Dementio ----> Dr. Beljar (Nekard/Draken in the 2017 remake)
O'Chuncks, Mimi and Natassia are NOT dubbed. (The remaining villains are not built on them)
Count Logan has Count Bleck’s hat and backstory albeit less impactful and despairing as Bleck’s. He also shares Slade’s mask, though chromed. Speaking of Slade, he also shares the notion that he uses his real name as an alias.
-That's not Slade's mask at all. It was hand-drawn by me with no references.
-Just because his name is Logan doesn't automatically mean it's Beast Boy (Even though it is him) Names are just names. They don't automatically jump to the source.
Starfleet... doesn't not always mean Star Trek.
"Great Grandpa (Insert name)" It's just a name or an honorary title. It doesn't make him anyone's actual Great Grandfather.
His three minions are expies of Bleck’s own minions and named after some of the goons from Where In Time Is Carmen Sandiego. Kamica and Madeva are ones to Starfire and Raven respectively.
We just covered this (With the exception of Beljar/Nekard) All three minions are no expies of Bleck's minions.
Kamica wasn't drawn by me, she was drawn by a former fan of mine. I don't know how she was made.
Medeva (Pyrus int he 2017 remake) is actually Slade's Secretary from the first season of Teen Titans (Final Exam... I think) and she was given a painted over version of ARELLA'S robs, not Ravens.
Aside from the Super Paper Mario reference, there's also Copycat, whose powers are reflective of Beast Boy's ability to shift into any animal. It is it any wonder he basically becomes a Replacement Goldfish for him when he dies?
Copione (Cope... E... Oh... Nay) (Which is Italian for "Copycat") May be a shape shiftier, but unlike Beast Boy he has to be in PSYCHICAL CONTACT with whomever it is he copying, and he can copy more than just animals.
Well why shouldn't he be a perfect addition to the team? If he can copy the other Titans and use their powers that means TWICE the power, and can set up to trick the enemies. Or even copy the enemy themselves to learn all their secrets and use their own powers against them.
Faking Amnesia: The story accuses Terra of this.
It is actually a well known and PROVEN fact that Terra never really had amnesia. She didn't WANT to remember Beast Boy or her past and was trying to fake amnesia to push him away... discourage him. (Very foolish)
Fire/Ice/Lightning: Count Logan's minions, Medeva, Kamica, and Sir Vile.
Again, Kamica's element isn't Ice.
Flat Character: Like with his other (in)famous work, Mykan firmly believes that characters hold back the plot, and thus everyone is flat as cardboard.
-I don't like characters behaving in certain ways (Regardless if other people like them)
-There's only so much to give them and so little word space I will allow.
-I want these chapters posted in the shortest possible time... if not, SOONER!
Count Logan is evil because Terra dumped him. That's it.
Whoever wrote that truly deserves a good kick.
It has been explained over and over in EVERY VERSION, it was MORE than just Terra dumping him. Beast Boy lived a hard life of tragedy, hardship and misery ever since he was mutated at age five. He lost so much and gained so little, and was often shunned, alienated and treated poorly or abandoned by many people.
So there you have it. The truth is, even if Terra was written out... I STILL have more than enough to turn BB into Logan.
"Too many painful losses can drive a person mad"
Hypocrite: Beast Boy calls out the other Titans for not being grateful to him for all the nice things he's done but he himself never shows gratitude to them for taking him in and being his friends, going so far as to ignore all that in favour of all the moments they were mad at him.
Taking him in means nothing if they don't give him love (which he really wants) even Applejack would tell you "You gave him THINGS... but you never gave IN!" Hence why he ran away. He'd rather take his chances in the streets than live with these creeps.
"You don't deserve him, Titans! He's amazing kid. He's done nothing but try to fit in, make you all smile once in a while, and he's tried to help out many many times... and you repay him with selfishness. neglect, and underestimating him. (Raven especially for smacking him upside the head many times in Trouble in Tokyo, even when he was RIGHT about something)
They WERE his friends once, but THINGS CHANGE after all. The Titans have often been abusive, rough and very strict with him, it doesn't matter if he was annoying or things like that... IT'S NOT AN EXCUSE. Now, all the good things and good times they've had together mean NOTHING, and that includes Raven hugging him at the end of SPELLBOUND.
...It means nothing anymore, and if anything, even the Titans themselves don't care about it and want to forget it (Just like Terra did)
No... what they had once is no more. That mutual affection and understanding they had has now disappeared. That is how I see it... that is how I wish to portray it so the fic can work.
Idiot Ball: You wanna know how bad the. In Beast Boy's letter to the Titans, he lists his true name: Garfield Logan. And no one, not even Beast Boy's former group, The Doom Patrol, managed to figure out Count Logan's true identity.
"Use your heads for something besides wearing a hat..."
It's called "Character Ignorance" One of the oldest and most often used frustrations of all. We viewers know what's going on! We can figure it out, but what keeps us frustrated is "When will THEY figure it out"
As for Logan's identity, again... Just because his name is LOGAN is not a dead giveaway, for many reasons.
-Logan can be anyone's name (Like WOLVERINE) It's just a name, it doesn't amount to snuff.
-How could they possibly deduce it's Beast Boy? They saw Beast Boy's dead body, and in the remake they KEEP that body frozen in a capsule until they can bury it. Logan is completely covered by his outfit. Logan is taller, stronger, more buff than BB. He has dark malicious powers. Even his voice (he's an adult and his voice is deeper) He doesn't SOUND like BB nor acts like him either.
...It's not a dead giveaway to the characters, just to the viewers.
I Just Want to Be Normal: This gets subverted and possibly deconstructed depending on how you see it. Terra's decision to lead a normal life drove Beast Boy over the edge and caused him to gain a Superpowered Evil Side simply because the only person who actually liked him dumped him. When the former finds out what her actions of trying to be normal caused, not to mention the whole void thing going on, it made her reconsider her decision.
Again... it was more than just Terra coldly and selfishly dumping him because she wanted to forget her past (Didn't even want to stay friends with him) He was treated cruel and lived a bad life. BB behaved just as anyone would in his shoes and go berserk. The fic states this numeorus times, but why people refuse to get it into their heads is beyond me...
It's All About Me: This example contains a YMMV entry. It should be moved to the YMMV tab.Canon Defilement or not, you can pretty much tell Beast Boy has become this. Simply because the world doesn't bend backwards to his every whim, romantically in the case of Terra, he lashes out at everyone.
Well, when nobody else thinks about you... who will?
Terra was only concerned with herself more than BB when she decided to forget him.
The Titans want BB to "Grow up" and "Move on" because THEY WANT him to be more like them. "So you got dumped... WHO CARES?!!"
And like was discussed before... after everything BB has suffered he got PUNISHED again... way uncool.
Never My Fault: The Titans even try to figure out what's wrong with him at the start, but he purposefully ignores them. Later, he states they never even once tried to help.
They cannot help him if they are part of the cause. You cannot go an talk to someone if that SAME SOMEONE is the very thing your pissed with.
And it's true, I portray it so the Titans only tell him "Grow up" "Move on" "Get over it" expecting him to lose the face and smile like a parent telling a child to "Don't you give me that look"
...that's not helping, that's being pushy.
and even if they DO try to help him, I always make it so their saying the WRONG THINGS to the WRONG PERSON... like this...
No, his sea only had ONE FISH, and that was Terra... now it's all just empty water. That's how I do it.
Loophole Abuse: The condition of being able to use the Dark Prognosticus is to have an empty heart and have never found true happiness. A cybernetic heart's essentially the same as an empty heart... Though it's unsaid how Beljar managed to fulfill the latter part.
Actually, it did... He is a ROBOT... he pyshically HAS no heart. (Learn to read properly other sources)
Plot-Relevant Age-Up: Beast Boy undergoes one after being possessed by the Dark Prognosticus.
Obviously TOMHUR wrote that one. He refuses to READ or realize that BB was CURSED, not possessed.
Possessed means being CONTROLLED or taken over, but BB was CURSED... chosen to become Logan and fulfill the prophecies whether he wanted to or not (He didn't want to... but the choice was not his)
Superman Stays Out of Gotham: Count Logan goes around destroying various planets, including Starfire's home world, and yet the only team to get involved other than the Teen Titans are the Doom Patrol and not, say, the Green Lantern Corps.
-I don't know much about Green Lantern or many heroes for that.
-Even if I did know them. It's NOT their story. They aren't welcome here.
That Man Is Dead: Terra's saying this in the last episode of Teen Titans is referenced from time to time. Beast Boy, who has gone insane from being rejected by Terra and has become Count Logan, throws Terra's line back in her face when she realizes who Count Logan is, as this is also a Whole Plot Reference to Super Paper Mario, where Count Logan plays Count Bleck's role.
Again... it's NOT... JUST... TERRA... (How many times do I have to say it)
Ungrateful Bastard: The fic tries to convince us that the Teen Titans are this, as noted in The Tape Knew You Would Say That. However, Beast Boy fits the bill better as he does not care that Terra is no longer a statue, he only cares about the fact that she doesn't want to be with him. Also, he never displays gratitude toward the Doom Patrol or the other Titans for taking him in, he only wangsts about their getting cross with and teasing him the way true friends do.
Already been covered about TAKING in but not GIVING in
And Terra no longer being a statue doesn't mean anything anymore. She's BACK... so drop it.
Beast Boy (or rather, Count Logan) later gives this to the other Titans and the Doom Patrol (sans Elasti-Girl) for not supporting him or acknowledging his good deeds, and again, since it's that kind of fic, he's the one portrayed in the right. And the Titans don't even try to argue with him.
Because they realize he's right...
"At first I thought Logan was largely responsible for all this... which he is. The facts cannot lie about that, but it seems to me that WHY he does it is rather UNDERSTANDABLE, despite being inexcusable, homicidal, and not unworthy of punishment.
Because of your selfish, harsh and pushy ways... You all created Logan, making you all just as responsible for all this"
Whole Plot Reference: This is one for Super Paper Mario.
Not all of it. It has SOME bits of it, but the plot plays in a different way
-No Flipside/flopside
-No traveling to alternate dimensions
-No Pixils
-No pure hearts
-No four episodes per chapter
Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds: The fanfic tries to pull Beast Boy off as that, after he falls for the power of the Dark Prognosticus and tries to destroy the universe. His motivation for doing so is because he can't take life anymore after Terra does not want to come back to the team, following the ending of the show. Subverted by the fact that he comes more off like a whiny little child who thinks breaking up with a girl is worse than losing your parents (or to compare to the Whole Plot Reference, losing your love) and wants to see everyone suffer.
Seriously...?! It's only Terra... Terra Terra... And not the fact he's already suffered through so much?
And this is why I deem my haters as idiots (Sloppy readers and ignorant people)
To be fair, this one does have some in universe explanation, as well, if shit like this really went down in the DCU (And its confirmed at least that Batman exists) then well, its likely the other heroes like Superman would get involved if BB went around blowing up planets
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But you forget, I hardly much about THOSE heroes. I'm just not interested in them. Plus, all those heroes in ONE PLACE, I could never handle all that (I can barely handle Darkness of Dimension)
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Eh true, I'm just saying, even in comics, people have complained about the fact that other heroes who are known to exist in that universe aren't even mentioned when world destroying shit goes down
Actually, that's never been proven to be true in canon. If that's the narrative you want to use for the story, then fine. But that's why the trope says the story accuses her of faking amnesia. And if you want to get technical, it hasn't even been proven that it was even Terra in the first place (though I'd consider that more of a stretch).
If the viewers can figure it out without any other hints, then there's no reason the other characters can't. You're argument doesn't work if the viewers have the same evidence as the characters.
It's not just Terra. But that's commonly mentioned because it was Terra that was the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back.
On the Teen Titans note, have you heard the rumor that they'll be bringing back the original Teen Titans?
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Well it has been proven that it IS her... even the actors say its really her. Seriously, what proof do you need?
Really? Tell that to the soap operas I've seen, despite all the obvious hints and dead giveaway, the characters spent at least 2 years until they figured out who's baby it was.
Then there's Anime's I've seen, it takes many episodes for the heroes to finally realize who they thought was their friend was the enemy all along?
what do you say to that?
That's no excuse for people's ignorance
It doesn't matter
1: They've been promising that for what... nearly 13 years now? I'm just not holding my breath
2: Even if BB and Terra get back together... it's more than way too late. I'm not going to stop this. Perhaps if they had done this 13 years ago... MAYBE I'd have stopped... but now... too late.
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Well, I did say it was a stretch. It's not even my argument, it's just one that I've heard. And though I won't use this as evidence either way, The actors don't always know what the writers had intended.
Personally, I don't think Soap Operas count, because they constantly recycle old plot devices, since there's only so far you can go before you run out of original content. I'd say that a way to avoid recycling plot devices too often is by extending the stories.
As for anime and other things, it's a trope for a reason. Explaining that you're not the only one to do that doesn't make TVtropes wrong for listing it as a trope.
I'm pretty sure nobody was promising anything. And even now, it's still a rumor. But it's a rumor that has evidence. And I wasn't even making a point about BB and Terra. I was just wonder that if the rumor is true, would you be glad if the original would be coming back? If they did, at least they could give the series a proper conclusion rather than just a cancelation like before.