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NeuroSparkle


aerospace engineer in development, bassline scientist, failure at writing

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Nice to see Celestia operating at something more than vanilla cake level. this is just a taste of what a being that can control the sun could do. For another small taste try "the Son Burns Brightly" by Eakin. Good story upvote.

Interesting look at a combat-goddess. Prepare for a wave of downvotes and complaints/'criticisms' that sound somewhat or mostly reasonable but actually come from people who hate Celestia, or even more numerous - hate that ponies > humans. For some reason we have a large group on Fimfic who believe humans should defeat ponies effortlessly in any context or situation when there's a conflict.

Then you'll get those who are legitimately put off by lack of a lead-in, and those who will try to say they're of the legitimate sort even though they don't mind other stories with this setup, and actually belong to one of the aforementioned hate-groups above.

Upvote.

Upvoted for a competent Celestia that is sorely lacking in most stories.

Long-Live the God-Empress!

Veylon #4 · Jul 4th, 2015 · · 2 ·

So, she's basically Superman minus the ethics, then? Avoiding unnecessary loss of life versus seeking it out is generally what separates the good guys from the bad guys and - given how totally over-the-top mind-blowingly powerful Celestia is in this fic - all of the kills were unnecessary.

And for all the lethality, she doesn't even accomplish anything here; whoever the alleged bad guy is that's plotting to launch a nuclear missile can easily replace a dozen or so soldiers and find someone else (or pressure the same guy) to push the shiny red button that makes it go boom. The missile is still there and ready to go; all she's really done is delay the launch by five minutes or so. She didn't take the warhead with her or destroy the control room or weld the launch doors shut or detonate the missile in the silo (because she apparently likes massacres so much) or anything. Or maybe she should've gone to wherever the guy giving the order to launch is and using her solar superpowers to sternly lecture him into stopping.

I've got no objection to Celestia being badass, but there's nothing particularly impressive about her slaughtering people far weaker than herself merely for being in her general vicinity; that isn't badass, merely callous and cruel.

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Praise the Sun!

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That is, if the story gets enough attention to attract such a variety of opinions in the first place. :rainbowwild:

Thanks for elaborating, though, FimFiction's niche societies is something I'm not quite familiar with :raritywink:

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That definitely sounds good :pinkiesmile: There's another great story with a similar setup by Cloud Hop, I forget what it's called but Celestia single-handedly ends a war with the Griffins. You should check it out if you haven't yet :twilightsmile:

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Oh, of course, I do agree with that. The thing's that in this case, Celestia has no reason to care, given how it's all a dreamscape-based simulation in case, er, assertive diplomacy does fail. I don't doubt she could blow up the missile inside the silo if she tried. :twilightsheepish:

Also, I apologise if Luna's appearance as well as a subtle Inception reference weren't enough to make the premise clear, in the end-twist.

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I've got no objection to Celestia being badass, but there's nothing particularly impressive about her slaughtering people far weaker than herself merely for being in her general vicinity; that isn't badass, merely callous and cruel.

If you've watched, or know what Dragonball is, just pretend they're the Red Ribbon Army :raritywink:

Nice twist at the end :rainbowlaugh:

It's nice to see Celestia 'cut loose' and show just how powerful and destructive she can be (even though it's just a simulation).

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I'm glad you liked it! Thanks for the fav :twilightsmile:

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Did you not read to the end? None of your moralpost actually applies to the story due to the circumstances that this was just combat simulation. X-Men Danger Room With Pretty Princess Pony Dream Magic. A Celestia this powerful could have just decimated the whole base from top to bottom of the silo, and if you're -in- a wartime situation then it's not about holding back and sparing the lives of enemy soldiers. You're /supposed/ to kill them if you have the ability to do so without undue risk.

Either way, this was just a look at princess magic using princess magic. No harm, no foul.

If anything a little surprised Celestia seemed to be holding herself back compared to a lot of stories.

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I think this is the one you mentioned ( I'll Kill You With My Tea Cup )

Overpowered ponies, no humor (but a comedy tag), shitty and uninteresting plot of the story and, what's even worse, all the story is just a desription of some actions, but there's no emotional aspect. The idea is bad, the realization is bad. Dislike.

P.S. People who liked this for some strange reasons: please go burn yourself.

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Man, you can gladly come here to criticise me and my work, but insulting people who happen to enjoy what I put out is just greatly uncalled for. Maybe take a few lessons from the show you watch?

So, what I got from this story is that your Celestia is both vastly more powerful than the real Celestia, and a ruthlessly cruel douchebag to boot?

And I'm supposed to be rooting for this character?

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I didn't realise having played, say, Borderlands marked me a ruthlessly cruel douchebag for life. :rainbowhuh:

That aside, well, no one ever said you were supposed to root for Celestia. In fact, in the unlikely scenario that a Pony-Human-War should occur in the real world, I'm pretty sure a lot of us would be on the human side. :raritywink:

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I never called you a ruthlessly cruel douchebag, I called the "Celestia" of your story a ruthlessly cruel douchebag.
I mean, using a living person to swat bullets? Really?

Your Celestia is arrogant, cruel and overall a disagreeable character.

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Well, of course, I just drew an analogy. Arrogant though she might be, the simulation she's in is quite like a video game, and I daresay you don't regret the deaths of unfortunate NPCs, which renders her actions ethically unquestionable because they simply have no impact on the real world[1].

Again, sorry if that didn't come across as it should have. :twilightsheepish:


[1] Unless you're one of those people who say that FPS games make people into killers, but I believe you're a reasonable person and reasonable people don't think such things.

Really? As in... really? You got me at a loss of words. I mean, I've seen some pretty crazy shit people can think up about fanon princesses but this is just...

This story lacks anything that makes one, well... an actual story? All I see is a love letter to a completely ridicolous and untrue portrayal of Celestia, both character and power wise. And no, comedy tag does not fix that in any way. I fail to see any sort of connection to comedy. And that is while completely discarding any sort of moral analysis, whether that was an illusion or not. I am sorry but I can hardly find anything positive about this story.

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Celestia awoke with a serene smile on her muzzle, her body resting pleasantly on a well-cushioned couch. Luna looked significantly less relaxed – she had fallen off her sofa and was lying on the floor, panting heavily.
“Tell me, Lulu, who’s next on our list of potential interdimensional enemies?”

This could be read - and was read by me - that she's actually going to these places and blowing stuff up. The ending is a bit ambiguous.

If this is meant to be her blowing off steam, fine. People need their catharsis.

But it's certainly no mission simulator (unless she's just goofing off). The goal of a mission is to accomplish the mission, not rack up a body count. If she needs to blow up a base, she can blow up the base right away and not waste her time. Individually directing shards of glass into people's throats isn't an efficient use of her time and energy when she could be killing en masse. Turning around to blow up a tank that can't follow her into the base is a waste of time when seconds count. Fighting the enemy only makes sense when doing so furthers the end goal.

I should note, too, that the goal isn't to kill the enemy, it's to disable the enemy. A dead enemy soldier consumes no further resources; a grievously injured one continues to eat and racks up medical bills and occupies the time of personnel that might be otherwise better employed. If the goal is to overburden the enemy's war economy to the point of collapse, then systemically inflicting crippling injuries is a more efficient means to that end than killing. That's what poison gas is for.

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This is less about how the story actually reads, and more about how you choose to interpret it and the morals you've chosen to attach to it, and then the logic based on those issues you've drummed up to legitimize a position that has already been proven incorrect. You either made a mistake, or you're choosing to see the story in a way it is not. Bottom line. This doesn't require deliberation, amigo.

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Oh, I definitely made a mistake. It's Word of God that this was a dream.

Of course, that leads me (as it's led others above) to ask what the point of this is, then. It's basically the same as Combat Training: A character is alleged to be awesome despite not having actually done anything. It's not so much a story as a scene that would be superfluous in any story that it could possibly be a part of. It's not a bad scene or badly written or badly presented, it's just unnecessary.

I should say something positive; I very much like seeing Celestia be written as powerful and competent for once. She ought to be, by all rights, very impressive and effective when she chooses to do battle. The author has delivered on that quite well where the show has not.

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P.S. People who liked this for some strange reasons: please go burn yourself.

Tried it once. Didn't work...

6168274 How about that nobody actually died? Isn't that positive?

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Yea, I don't understand this mindset here...

While Celestia is my 2nd favorite pony behind only rainbow dash and I enjoy seeing her kick ass at times I like her because she's clearly made out to be just like any other pony behind the political mask. And what makes her powerful in her own right is her thousand year long EXPERIENCE, not some arbitrary '"she move pony sun!, she super powerful!" that the show makes a point of disproving time after time. Hell, it even says that a group of unicorns had the job of moving the sun and moon before Celestia and Luna took over. And if you read the canon 'Journal of the Two Sisters' you'd see it took 10 of them. So there you go, if you judge her power by the ability to move the ponies sun (which I'd say is a large ball of magic, since anything else would destroy the world if it was moved) Celestia is about as powerful as 10 of the most powerful unicorns.

Overall i'd say she has less raw magic than Twilight who is the ELEMENT of magic. But with magic id say its more about knowing how to use it, less on how much raw amounts of it you have. (then again the tirek episode was just twilight with all 4 alicorns power vs Tirek with a bunch of unicorns power shooting DBZ style beams at each other, lol)

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Journal's canon status has always been iffy. There are people who say the comics and the blindbags and the Journal are canon but there's no proof. Until we hear it direct that the events and names and places and whatnot in these side-products are canonical with the show, it is best to assume they are not. People telling you that they are are wishful-thinking, since their headcanon agrees with the side-products and thus they desire canonical reinforcement of their personal ideas and beliefs.

Also, do not forget that Celestia was also the bearer of Magic before Twilight - which lends sturdy canonical evidence against your idea. That's all I'm going to say in this thread for now. I've had all these discussions and arguments several hundred times over the last few years.

Hum... Okay.
I'm okay with this.
Thumbs up.

The relatively pleasant sensation of weightlessness wasn’t ripped apart by the noise of wind or similar side effects that usually occurred when one travelled through the troposphere at terminal velocity

There is a time and a place for verbosity. The second sentence in a short story is not that time or place. The rest of this piece of work seems to be trying to describe adrenaline-fueled action, which is fine. But if that is the case, aim for smaller phrases. Sounds and sights within the second. Maybe a fragment or two just to give the reader a sense of how fast and furious the main character feels.

Maybe something along the lines of:
Dropping like a rock. Wind's whistling. Pushing from all around. And yet... surreal.
...
Anyway, the rest seemed to follow a steady enough pace. :twilightsmile:

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Oh yes, that is a problem I tend to have. :twilightsheepish: In this particular case, I was trying to balance between the rapid action that occurred but also the relaxed state of Celestia's superior mind, considering the narrative perspective.

Nice scene, but it really would work better if there was something kind of challenge for her, I was really expecting her to take the nuke head on mid air.

That and you could throw some giant robots in the mix XD

First what caused her to lose it, second ***uss iowa bitch***

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